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Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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I tried to test it, but I literally don't feel comfortable giving somebody full access to my email. I don't know your practices, security protocols, etc. I'd feel way more comfortable if this would be an app or a browser add-on that would handle everything locally, without sharing the access token with your servers.

How many emails clients do you know that don’t need access to your mail?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Looks nice but currently does no more than I can already achieve with a new skin on Gmail. (I'm using http://flowapps.co/inboxtheme/ ) I know it's been mentioned elsewhere but Inbox Bundles are pretty much the main reason Inbox was a superior client. Since being forced back to Gmail it's the only thing I've missed and I've had to revert back to old email discipline (daily clearouts and ruthless unsubscribing) to get…

1. I understand that the product can only become great if each & every suggestion is listened to, so thank you!

2. DarwinMail has a public roadmap, public changelog, and open lines of communication.

3. The primary focus of Darwin Mail is to help you be productive. Each and every change is made for that sole reason.

They're 3 reasons why I believe DarwinMail is worth the try!

Also, bundles are definitely on the todo list.

I also genuinely want to know how DarwinMail can help with "daily clearouts and ruthless unsubscribing"?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic but I've never heard of "hero image" until now and looked it up. Has boilerplate web design become so normalized that everything has a name?

... yes, so?

It's fascinating. So much creative breadth enabled by modern web and we've converted quite well one the one format for selling a new product or idea.

Not necessarily bad. I'm excited to see how this diverges again.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No no anything that's not completely obvious to everyone who visits needs to be changed. Thank you for your feedback. I've thought about what you said (albeit very quickly) and made changes to the homepage https://www.darwinmail.app/index.php The homepage subtitle: "Your Google Inbox replacement: reach new levels of productivity." And a below the hero image: "An evolutionary way to work with your emails." - I think I…

Off topic but I've never heard of "hero image" until now and looked it up. Has boilerplate web design become so normalized that everything has a name?

It's a term from traditional publishing. The Wikipedia page on it is pretty misleading in that respect.

And, by analogy, theatre according to this, https://foxxr.com/the-epic-story-of-the-hero-image/amp/.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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post #26

I tried to test it, but I literally don't feel comfortable giving somebody full access to my email. I don't know your practices, security protocols, etc. I'd feel way more comfortable if this would be an app or a browser add-on that would handle everything locally, without sharing the access token with your servers.

How many emails clients do you know that don’t need access to your mail?

Does that matter? Why would you give, instead of just Google, two companies access to your emails?

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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I probably would have been all for this a few weeks ago. but since trying the Gmail app, all I miss is bundles and the sleek mobile app. this has neither of those. also, is it me, or are you selling the same thing for $3 and for $25?

3$/month or 25$/year. But yes, it's the same plan.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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post #26

I tried to test it, but I literally don't feel comfortable giving somebody full access to my email. I don't know your practices, security protocols, etc. I'd feel way more comfortable if this would be an app or a browser add-on that would handle everything locally, without sharing the access token with your servers.

Part 1: I understand your worry. It's perfectly within the realm of reason. Please allow me to help alleviate your worries. The following are a list of the permissions DarwinMail requests of you.

PS: WE NEVER store any email data that belongs to you. Google has verified our compliance via a lengthy audit!

Manage mailbox labels — this allows DarwinMail to add and remove labels (inbox, snoozed, spam, etc) to your emails.

Manage your sensitive mail settings — this allows DarwinMail to update settings such as your forwarding address and aliases.

Manage you basic mail settings — this allows DarwinMail to update settings such as your signature and out of office reply.

View and modify but not delete your email — this allows DarwinMail to create your email (when you use the compose functionality), modify you email, and send your email (when you click the send button). This also allows you to update and save drafts.

Please feel free to check out the following official documentation from Google for further reading.

https://developers.google.com/gmail/api/auth/scopes

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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post #26

I tried to test it, but I literally don't feel comfortable giving somebody full access to my email. I don't know your practices, security protocols, etc. I'd feel way more comfortable if this would be an app or a browser add-on that would handle everything locally, without sharing the access token with your servers.

Part 2: DarwinMail is verified by Google!

What does that mean?

DarwinMail basically sits on top of Google's servers and displays the data in the same manner (and in time using the exact same features + more) as Inbox did.

Darwin does not store any of your email data whatsoever. In fact, if it did, Google would have asked me to audit the tool - but they instead granted me Google verification. It took them almost a month to break down DarwinMail and make sure it did not store any user email data.

If you have any questions on the verification process, please ask me! Or look here at the official Google documentation.

https://twitter.com/joeytawadrous https://support.google.com/cloud/answer/9110914

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