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Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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ddalex wrote: post #26

I tried to test it, but I literally don't feel comfortable giving somebody full access to my email. I don't know your practices, security protocols, etc. I'd feel way more comfortable if this would be an app or a browser add-on that would handle everything locally, without sharing the access token with your servers.

Part 3: How does DarwimMail actually work? So what happens exactly is:

The user logs into DarwinMail.app, DarwinMail makes a login request to Google's servers, Google logs the user in, DarwinMail asks for the users emails at which point this data is rendered in the user's browser. None of this email data is stored on DarwinMail's servers. There is no need! Think of all the space it would take up and the time that would be spent retrieving the data.

Google's API & servers do the heavy lifting. DarwinMail allows you to view your emails just like Inbox, and hopefully provides (or will soon provide) the same kind of functionality :)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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bleuarff wrote: post #38
xhgdvjky wrote: post #37

I probably would have been all for this a few weeks ago. but since trying the Gmail app, all I miss is bundles and the sleek mobile app. this has neither of those. also, is it me, or are you selling the same thing for $3 and for $25?

3$/month or 25$/year. But yes, it's the same plan.

Thanks for replying to that!

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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xhgdvjky wrote: post #37

I probably would have been all for this a few weeks ago. but since trying the Gmail app, all I miss is bundles and the sleek mobile app. this has neither of those. also, is it me, or are you selling the same thing for $3 and for $25?

Yeah, I was so busy developing at that stage I really didn't want to release until DarwinMail had more features.

Bundles are on the todo list

You are so right about the pricing though. It's too confusing. I will change that asap as they are the same plan, it's just that the yearly plan works out cheaper.

Please add any feedback you have here! https://www.darwinmail.app/feedback.php

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #14
shafyy wrote: post #10

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Calling the monthly and yearly pricing different tiers is confusing and not customary. I would just call it Pro and then say "$2/month (yearly, or 3$/month monthly)" or something like that. Check out some other SaaS pricing pages on how they do it :-) If you want to simplify, you can also just offer the monthly billing option for now, as the $1 difference is not that big anyways and it's less confusing for folks (in…

You are so right. Spot on in fact. Thank you for the tip. I will change that asap. It's too confusing. Sorry, but there should be a difference of $22 to purchase the yearly plan (which saves $11 - oh I see you meant to type $11 not $1). Yes, perhaps it's not that much of a difference, but it can add up :) As regards the mobile app, Darwin Mail is currently mobile responsive to it looks and works great on your tablet…

> May I ask, why do you prefer a native app over a responsive web app?

Personally: notifications with quick actions, and face ID authentication are both benefits of a native app.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Sendotsh wrote: post #22
DarwinMailApp wrote: post #17

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No no anything that's not completely obvious to everyone who visits needs to be changed. Thank you for your feedback. I've thought about what you said (albeit very quickly) and made changes to the homepage https://www.darwinmail.app/index.php The homepage subtitle: "Your Google Inbox replacement: reach new levels of productivity." And a below the hero image: "An evolutionary way to work with your emails." - I think I…

It still reads like it’s a Google/Gmail replacement, and not an add-on/enhancement. I’m not sure what the right words are, but it definitely needs to be clearer that it enhances Gmail, not replaces it. “Your Google Inbox replacement: Enhancing Gmail to reach new levels of productivity.” or something like that?

I love this idea. Thank you. Words do fail us sometimes. However, I do like what you're saying. The subtitle should be clearer. I will think about it, to try and come up with the best description I can - I'm open to more suggestions though! Thank you again for yours.

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by shafyy »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #14
shafyy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling the monthly and yearly pricing different tiers is confusing and not customary. I would just call it Pro and then say "$2/month (yearly, or 3$/month monthly)" or something like that. Check out some other SaaS pricing pages on how they do it :-) If you want to simplify, you can also just offer the monthly billing option for now, as the $1 difference is not that big anyways and it's less confusing for folks (in…

You are so right. Spot on in fact. Thank you for the tip. I will change that asap. It's too confusing. Sorry, but there should be a difference of $22 to purchase the yearly plan (which saves $11 - oh I see you meant to type $11 not $1). Yes, perhaps it's not that much of a difference, but it can add up :) As regards the mobile app, Darwin Mail is currently mobile responsive to it looks and works great on your tablet…

Sorry, I meant $1/month difference not per year.

I personally just think mobile apps run smoother and faster than mobile websites, plus in this case notifications are key for me.

For services or products that I ue at least on a weekly basis, I always prefer an app than a website. But maybe that's just me :-)

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by dinkydani »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #24
dinkydani wrote: post #20

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Ohh yes I also really miss pinning. Starring just doesn't cut it for me

Please see above comment as Pinning already exists for Darwin Mail users! Should I add a feature spotlight for Pinning to the homepage though? I don't think it's clear that Darwin Mail supports Pinning as of now! Thank you so much for your feedback :) This kind of feedback is what makes products great!

Yes I think so! It's a major Inbox feature that people miss. You should probably focus on implementing the most missed Inbox features after launch :D

Re: Show HN: I Built Darwin Mail as a Google Inbox Replacement

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Post by andybak »

DarwinMailApp wrote: post #33
andybak wrote: post #16

Looks nice but currently does no more than I can already achieve with a new skin on Gmail. (I'm using http://flowapps.co/inboxtheme/ ) I know it's been mentioned elsewhere but Inbox Bundles are pretty much the main reason Inbox was a superior client. Since being forced back to Gmail it's the only thing I've missed and I've had to revert back to old email discipline (daily clearouts and ruthless unsubscribing) to get…

1. I understand that the product can only become great if each & every suggestion is listened to, so thank you! 2. DarwinMail has a public roadmap, public changelog, and open lines of communication. 3. The primary focus of Darwin Mail is to help you be productive. Each and every change is made for that sole reason. They're 3 reasons why I believe DarwinMail is worth the try! Also, bundles are definitely on the todo l…

> I understand that the product can only become great if each & every suggestion is listened to

I've actually heard strong arguments for the opposite. Your vision is what counts. People often don't know what they want until you show them.

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