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Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Probably the same person who approved Apple pencil 1 charging...

Apple Pencil 1 actually came with an adapter to charge it. I take it you've never used it before.

I only found about the adapter after almost a year of owning the 1st gen. By then I was already desperate to switch to the new, vastly improved design.

It was just a terrible idea, no excuses. Requiring a dongle only adds insult to injury.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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You missed charging the Apple Pencil on the ipad pro. Arrow keys being disabled in Safari iOS 3D Touch Removing the 3.5mm Jack...

Also, remember when they - removed the SCSI port - removed the floppy disk drive - removed the CD ROM It hurt EVERY time. The pain does not get less when they do it over and over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bypcPW5O4

Guess which one apple (and everyone else) is using despite this being available for two years? (Not aptX) Wireless just isn't ready yet.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Probably the same person who approved Apple pencil 1 charging...

Apple Pencil 1 actually came with an adapter to charge it. I take it you've never used it before.

Right! This is one of my biggest peeves with anti-Apple complainers...there are a few legitimate complaints with some of Apple's current designs but this isn't one! Apple Pencil 2 wireless charging nonwithstanding, this is the better design. Plugging in to your iPad is much better than having to dig out a cable, plug it into the Pencil, plug the other end somewhere else. Just think when your Pencil dies, which is more convenient?

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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It’s not just the keyboard, either. I’ve been buying Macs since they switched to Intel in 2006 and the most recent MacBook Pros are the most problematic I’ve ever had. - Bluetooth seems to be fundamentally flawed at a hardware level. AirPods, Plantronics, doesn’t matter. It just randomly connects and disconnects as it pleases. - USB-C dongles are a minefield of poor functionality However, I’ve run Linux off and on si…

>Even with the issues above it still has an excellent display, I like the keyboard (waiting to start having issues), and the battery life is the best I’ve ever had.

I don't understand this.

I understand not liking Linux Desktop(I hate it, but LOVE LOVE LOVE Ubuntu Server, fav OS of all time)

And... the screen is what has you sold on Apple OS?

I'm flustered at this logic. Pretty screen-> Good operating system

I only imagine you use your laptop as a facebook machine. Would a cellphone do?

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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It’s not just the keyboard, either. I’ve been buying Macs since they switched to Intel in 2006 and the most recent MacBook Pros are the most problematic I’ve ever had. - Bluetooth seems to be fundamentally flawed at a hardware level. AirPods, Plantronics, doesn’t matter. It just randomly connects and disconnects as it pleases. - USB-C dongles are a minefield of poor functionality However, I’ve run Linux off and on si…

How about wifi? I am experiencing random wifi disconnects ever since the mid-2014 MBP all throughout the current-gen 12” MB. It’s so infuriating that I had to disable wifi and Bluetooth altogether and switch to a dongle with an Ethernet connector. I changed routers and even my home (!!) to see if the issue persists (it does). And I’m not alone, forums have similar cases dating years prior to me.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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15+ years as an Apple user, this is my biggest pet peeve. The other two being: - the touch strip, which I find mostly annoying. I'd prefer physical buttons with the ability to show different labels (a la Optimus keyboard). - whichever idiot thought putting the power plug at the bottom of the Magic Mouse was a good idea.

> whichever idiot thought putting the power plug at the bottom of the Magic Mouse was a good idea. For those not familiar with the Apple Mouse, the commenter means that the power plug is on the part that you’re supposed to have on the mousepad, meaning you can’t charge it while using it, at all. Easily the worst way to design a mouse, ever. I don’t understand how it was approved.

Yet many phone makers have done the same thing now, where you can't use wired headphones and charge the phone at the same time.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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It’s not just the keyboard, either. I’ve been buying Macs since they switched to Intel in 2006 and the most recent MacBook Pros are the most problematic I’ve ever had. - Bluetooth seems to be fundamentally flawed at a hardware level. AirPods, Plantronics, doesn’t matter. It just randomly connects and disconnects as it pleases. - USB-C dongles are a minefield of poor functionality However, I’ve run Linux off and on si…

> tune and configure it to work

You really don't have to do that. For example: I put Ubuntu Mate on a 2009 Macbook that could not run MacOs anymore (too slow). I had to install a wifi driver, and that was it. Everything else worked out of the box.

My current Dell Inspiron 7000 laptop is running the same OS, and needed 0 drivers installed.

I put Antergos on an Intel Nuc (that I later switched to Ubuntu Server). Again, no configuration, and no issues with drivers.

I will mention that Mate has some font scaling problems if you're running two monitors with different resolutions (spoiler: you can't), but I know that other distro's handle that just fine.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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> “So, just curious, why did you buy another one?” she asked, referring to the 2018 MacBook Air I’d gotten six months after selling the Pro. I was hoping she talked more about this part, but brushing it aside by bringing up "Apple ecosystem" is pretty unsatisfactory. It does tell you, though, that Apple has its target demographic by the balls, and broken keyboards are certainly not chasing them away. Macbooks will ge…

My last company gave us iPhones, and I was excited to try an Apple product without giving Apple money.

Wow, I felt like I was using a phone that was 5 years old.

I only imagine Apple users have Allegory of the Cave effect, they don't know whats out there. Leaving the cave is lots of work, so they enjoy whats available for them.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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It’s not just the keyboard, either. I’ve been buying Macs since they switched to Intel in 2006 and the most recent MacBook Pros are the most problematic I’ve ever had. - Bluetooth seems to be fundamentally flawed at a hardware level. AirPods, Plantronics, doesn’t matter. It just randomly connects and disconnects as it pleases. - USB-C dongles are a minefield of poor functionality However, I’ve run Linux off and on si…

> USB-C dongles are a minefield of poor functionality

Since most of my peripherals have a detachable cord, I just bought a couple of USB-C whatever cables and now I'm fully 'native' USB-C. Suddenly the couple of USB-A host devices I have around feel incredibly legacy (an old MacBook, Xbox One).

> Bluetooth seems to be fundamentally flawed / USB-C dongles

I do have a USB-C-to-many-things hub but I never use it now, yet it should be noted that the thing is so badly shielded that it throws WiFi down the curb every single time I used to plug a device or even SD card into it, so it might affect bluetooth too. I have zero issues with the same devices but using USB-C cables.

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