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Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by mruts »

thought_alarm wrote: post #24
ajma wrote: post #2

hmm... am I alone in being someone who likes the butterfly keyboard?

The arrow keys are one of the most essential parts of a keyboard for people who write a lot of code or otherwise do a lot of copyediting. This type of user needs to be able to lock on to the arrow keys repeatedly and unconsciously without fail throughout the work day. Apple's keyboard designers understood this and got it right for over 15 years. But that changed in 2016. As of 2016, Apple's new keyboards provide zero…

Honest question: Why are you using arrow keys for coding?

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by threeseed »

mratzloff wrote: post #60
droptablemain wrote: post #34

I tried, but I don't really feel much sympathy for someone who buys a product with a 40% premium that's effectively a status symbol masquerading as a piece of hardware. To be honest, I'm quite giggly over this whole ordeal.

MacBooks aren't a status symbol anymore. You only tell yourself this to feel superior instead of considering that there are actual reasons people prefer macOS and, yes, the ecosystem over Windows or Android. Many of these reasons are cited in this thread.

It really is pretty hilarious that the people who believe Mac users to be superior are the ones who desperately need to feel superior themselves.

Most Mac users are just happy to pay more for a device that isn't perfect but works far better than Windows and Linux.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by griffinmb »

tsmarsh wrote: post #99
coldtea wrote: post #78

15+ years as an Apple user, this is my biggest pet peeve. The other two being: - the touch strip, which I find mostly annoying. I'd prefer physical buttons with the ability to show different labels (a la Optimus keyboard). - whichever idiot thought putting the power plug at the bottom of the Magic Mouse was a good idea.

You missed charging the Apple Pencil on the ipad pro. Arrow keys being disabled in Safari iOS 3D Touch Removing the 3.5mm Jack...

> You missed charging the Apple Pencil on the ipad pro.

You plug the Pencil into the iPad to pair it. It comes with an adapter that you use to charge it with a regular cable.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by threeseed »

swah wrote: post #89
threeseed wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the Ghostcover and it's amazing. Doesn't cover the TouchBar and helps to soften the noise.

Oh how sad. I remember those videos showing the first unibody MBPs, everyone was drooling over those. Now people have to use that!! [1] while $200 laptops from ASUS have keyboards that work for 10 years. I wish they were the kind of company that could admit a mistake, but it breaks their story. [1] https://store.gouppercase.com/products/premium-keyboard-prot...

Not sure what you're talking about. Nobody has to use them.

I like to use them so my laptop keyboard stays clean and helps soften the noise since MacBook Pro is designed to at least partially emulate a mechanical keyboard.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by rayiner »

sundvor wrote: post #36
kkarakk wrote: post #21

i am absolutely laughing at this macbook pro 2017 i bought. the keyboard has been replaced 3 times now...the screen was replaced for stagelight effect(broken connector)...they replaced the whole top bit for that(everything north of the hinge gets replaced) i finally pawned it off on someone else and they promptly fried the motherboard due to water damage(the air intake ports lead directly to the motherboard so good l…

Woa. For the X1 Carbon, Lenovo actually designed ducts to channel accidental water ingress away from the important parts. It's kind of sad that Apple gets away with just focusing on the glitzy externals - and that their plethora customers don't care.

Lenovo (I’ve got an X1 Carbon) has no room to talk about shoddy QA: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-laptop-quality-cont...

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

coldtea wrote: post #78

15+ years as an Apple user, this is my biggest pet peeve. The other two being: - the touch strip, which I find mostly annoying. I'd prefer physical buttons with the ability to show different labels (a la Optimus keyboard). - whichever idiot thought putting the power plug at the bottom of the Magic Mouse was a good idea.

Once they decided to make the mouse chargeable it was inevitable the plug would go underneath. A plug that allowed you to continue to use the mouse wouldn't stand up to the stress and strain of being dragged around your desk.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by apexalpha »

thedanbob wrote: post #85
threeseed wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me add a few more: 1) SMS/iMessages synced across all devices and able to send from any of the devices e.g. Mac or non-4G iPad. 2) 2FA codes received on your iPhone are automatically populated in Safari text fields on your Mac. 3) Safari window opened on an iPhone will appear as an icon on the Mac so you can easily pick up where you left off. Works for a number of other apps as well. And in every direction. 4) Ai…

When I switched from macOS to linux, the things I missed the most were AirDrop and being able to text from my computer. I'll admit I still haven't found substitutes for either that are nearly as nice.

KDE Connect?

I don't use it anymore but I think this covers some of it.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by alehul »

coldtea wrote: post #78

15+ years as an Apple user, this is my biggest pet peeve. The other two being: - the touch strip, which I find mostly annoying. I'd prefer physical buttons with the ability to show different labels (a la Optimus keyboard). - whichever idiot thought putting the power plug at the bottom of the Magic Mouse was a good idea.

> whichever idiot thought putting the power plug at the bottom of the Magic Mouse was a good idea.

For those not familiar with the Apple Mouse, the commenter means that the power plug is on the part that you’re supposed to have on the mousepad, meaning you can’t charge it while using it, at all.

Easily the worst way to design a mouse, ever. I don’t understand how it was approved.

Re: Its butterfly keyboard design has failed, but Apple has yet to admit its mistake

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Post by threeseed »

coldtea wrote: post #78

15+ years as an Apple user, this is my biggest pet peeve. The other two being: - the touch strip, which I find mostly annoying. I'd prefer physical buttons with the ability to show different labels (a la Optimus keyboard). - whichever idiot thought putting the power plug at the bottom of the Magic Mouse was a good idea.

People still bringing up the Magic Mouse.

The idea is you weren't supposed to leave it plugged in.

2 hours of charging = 2 months of use so it's not like charging was supposed to be a regular occurrence.

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