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Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #116

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Phone batteries are replaceable. Just not directly by end-users (well, not most end-users). There are design tradeoffs to make the batteries user-replaceable. E.g., the batteries are going to need a casing and socket that make them OK for users to handle and replace. The phone's going to need additional casing pieces, latches, and seals, etc. The phone's going to be a little bigger, heavier and more expensive. Maybe…

> Maybe not a great tradeoff for something needed once every 2-3 years. The case for user-replaceable batteries isn't just to be able to replace them when they wear out. It's also to be able to carry a spare or two for when you want to use the device for an extended period of time. (No, external power banks don't really address this use case).

> external power banks don't really address this use case

Can you elaborate on why not? For me they address it far better than swapping out the internal battery, since you don't have to interrupt that extended use by powering down the phone to make the switch. They're also way easier to recharge simultaneously, without needing a bank of dummy phones.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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> Maybe not a great tradeoff for something needed once every 2-3 years. The case for user-replaceable batteries isn't just to be able to replace them when they wear out. It's also to be able to carry a spare or two for when you want to use the device for an extended period of time. (No, external power banks don't really address this use case).

> external power banks don't really address this use case Can you elaborate on why not? For me they address it far better than swapping out the internal battery, since you don't have to interrupt that extended use by powering down the phone to make the switch. They're also way easier to recharge simultaneously, without needing a bank of dummy phones.

Because with power banks, you either have to keep it attached to the power bank during use or wait for the bank to recharge your phone.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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Let's assume that they knew this was a half baked product. Not a "first edition" product like the first iPhone, but a rushed, half baked product, released without consideration of sales but just for being the first in the market for this niche. Given this assumption, why would you give it to reviewers at all ? Remember "Vertu" ? They were the Ferrari of phones during the Blackberry era and were _shit_. I got my hands…

Or pay it to be a movie prop.

I got a rare pre-production version of the matrix nokia phone, to test our WAP sites. Our model would shoot the auto-slider cover on every time we pressed the release button. The cover would fly so well we ended up incorporating the phone into the nerf office wars.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #116

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Phone batteries are replaceable. Just not directly by end-users (well, not most end-users). There are design tradeoffs to make the batteries user-replaceable. E.g., the batteries are going to need a casing and socket that make them OK for users to handle and replace. The phone's going to need additional casing pieces, latches, and seals, etc. The phone's going to be a little bigger, heavier and more expensive. Maybe…

> Maybe not a great tradeoff for something needed once every 2-3 years. The case for user-replaceable batteries isn't just to be able to replace them when they wear out. It's also to be able to carry a spare or two for when you want to use the device for an extended period of time. (No, external power banks don't really address this use case).

The best solution to this I've found is the moto Z series of phones. Integrated battery and an external battery that attaches to the back with magnets. I don't really use the other mods but there's a battery attached to the back of my phone all the time and a spare in my bag.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #47

Let's assume that they knew this was a half baked product. Not a "first edition" product like the first iPhone, but a rushed, half baked product, released without consideration of sales but just for being the first in the market for this niche. Given this assumption, why would you give it to reviewers at all ? Remember "Vertu" ? They were the Ferrari of phones during the Blackberry era and were _shit_. I got my hands…

>They were the Ferrari of phones >There's a reason why they were not reviewed widely Coincidentally, Ferrari also play dishonest games with reviewers: https://jalopnik.com/how-ferrari-spins-5760248

Machine industry standard parts with ones own - slightly diffrent size and tolerance and sell them for $Orgprice * 10 ?

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #129

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I want a folding screen because it will make every part of using phones a nicer experience. There's a reason tablets exist: tablets provide a superior user experience. The foldable form factor lets you put a tablet in your pocket. Nobody understood the need for the iPad when it came out either.

I dispute that tablets are a superior user experience. They’re great for some things, but in general phones are better. Phones crush tablets in both sales and usage, and most people have a big phone rather than a small phone and a big tablet.

I would say phones crush tablets in sales because you can't put a tablet in your pocket. The folding phone changes this, and that's why its so interesting.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #168

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A Ferrari is still in another world of sport vehicles. You can't find a sport sedan to be better than a Ferrari.

I doubt that anyone who can buy/wants a Ferrari is choosing between it and a sports sedan (M series, AMG series, RS series etc.). It is between Mclaren/Lamborghini/Ferrari and which one is the best depends on personal preference really (looks, are you going to track etc.).

https://web.archive.org/web/20160923072443/http://lambounfal...

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #47

Let's assume that they knew this was a half baked product. Not a "first edition" product like the first iPhone, but a rushed, half baked product, released without consideration of sales but just for being the first in the market for this niche. Given this assumption, why would you give it to reviewers at all ? Remember "Vertu" ? They were the Ferrari of phones during the Blackberry era and were _shit_. I got my hands…

>They were the Ferrari of phones >There's a reason why they were not reviewed widely Coincidentally, Ferrari also play dishonest games with reviewers: https://jalopnik.com/how-ferrari-spins-5760248

Chris Harris (author of the linked article) was also banned from reviewing Lambo's too

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Why do you want your phone charge to last more than a day? Can't you just charge it while you sleep?

Im in the military. Sometimes I sleep places that dont have charge points.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Can I ask what the dual USB is used for? Charge + USB OTG device?

Charge+something, but also because when one breaks im not screwed.
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