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Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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There are a few ways of looking at this. Most of the more engineery-types are pointing out the inevitability of failure, the challenges trying to find a good enough substrate to mount a touchscreen stack on, and trying to protect an exposed external hinge from impact, and all that material engineering science stuff that's really clever... But well besides the point. I can't even rationalise why anybody wants a foldin…

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Avenir manufactures a variety of devices (licensed under the Energizer brand) that might intrigue you: https://www.energizeyourdevice.com/en/mobiles/catalog/ . I think they're only sold in EU markets, though.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

#82

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>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

Can I ask what the dual USB is used for? Charge + USB OTG device?

For some, it would be charge + speaker, charge + headphones, or charge + TV.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #54

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There is currently a widely reported issue with display backlight failures in MacBook Pros, apparently caused by a failure-prone flex cable which can’t be replaced: https://ifixit.org/blog/12903/

Its a non material dependent design defect, cable is too short.

I mean we could argue that a different material would solve the problem too, although yeah just making it longer also solves the problem and makes more sense.

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post #74

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> A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost). Absolutely not. Ferraris are renowned for being shop queens/needing absurdly frequent servicing, which probably needs to be done at an official dealership. Also, often you need to remove the motor to do basic service (the car is designed for this). eg see discussions in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledin…

I mean if you own a Ferrari and it doesn't need frequent servicing, I'd question why the hell you bought the thing if you didn't intend to drive it as it's designed to be driven.

Because most people aren’t car people and buy it to brag to their friends or so. It’s more important that they look cool. Also, to be fair, it’s not a big deal to remove the engine and it makes a lot of work much easier.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #47

Let's assume that they knew this was a half baked product. Not a "first edition" product like the first iPhone, but a rushed, half baked product, released without consideration of sales but just for being the first in the market for this niche. Given this assumption, why would you give it to reviewers at all ? Remember "Vertu" ? They were the Ferrari of phones during the Blackberry era and were _shit_. I got my hands…

>They were the Ferrari of phones >There's a reason why they were not reviewed widely Coincidentally, Ferrari also play dishonest games with reviewers: https://jalopnik.com/how-ferrari-spins-5760248

You could just leave it at

> Ferrari also play dishonest

https://jalopnik.com/ferrari-admits-to-knowingly-allowing-de...

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #2

Most cases seem to be due to users mistakenly removing the permanent screen protection layer. The company claims that the foldable screen has been tested for 200,000 folds -- i.e. about 5 years of rigorous use.

This may be a case of cultural differences... a lot of Asian people like to leave those plastic protectors on!

I remember several US households with plastic cover over their couches. They didn’t even remove them for special occasions.

It always struck me as extremely strange to effectively ruin a product only to be able to throw it away in somewhat better condition.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

#87
post #5

I wonder, if a phone with folding screen truly was a Jobs Steve's "joke?" May be it wasn't, but what a bad design decision it is. What I hear here in China are engineers saying that "all it took a fashionable American CEO to make up a joke about phone with folding screen for Huawei and Samsung to spend billions actually making it."

Over the years Apple was famous for pantenting some pretty crazy ideas. I’m on the record saying I would never want a folding screen for many reasons, fragility being one. As for Jobs playing a joke? I’ll just leave this here https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2002/06/china-pap... China may not share our understanding of satire and sarcasm, but you’d think Korea would understand the basic tenants of engineeri…

s/tenants/tenets/

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A Ferrari is meant to be ostentatious _and_ a great car (not withstanding pratcicality or cost). Absolutely not. Ferraris are renowned for being shop queens/needing absurdly frequent servicing, which probably needs to be done at an official dealership. Also, often you need to remove the motor to do basic service (the car is designed for this). eg see discussions in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledin…

I mean if you own a Ferrari and it doesn't need frequent servicing, I'd question why the hell you bought the thing if you didn't intend to drive it as it's designed to be driven.

The bulk of the 'supercars' for sale here in NL has absurdly low mileage compared to their age.

Re: Samsung's folding phone breaks for reviewers

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There are a few ways of looking at this. Most of the more engineery-types are pointing out the inevitability of failure, the challenges trying to find a good enough substrate to mount a touchscreen stack on, and trying to protect an exposed external hinge from impact, and all that material engineering science stuff that's really clever... But well besides the point. I can't even rationalise why anybody wants a foldin…

>> They've made every size of phone between a stamp and a tablet. There's nothing left to do. Really? My dream phone doesn't exist yet. I want a phone that is reliable, that lasts more than a few days on a single charge. I want one with two USB connections. I want one with a proper headphone jack, and a speaker that is loud enough to hear properly while driving (without a mount). For these features I am willing to tr…

My iPhone SE (refreshed version) hits all of this, except the 2 USB connections -- which is a very specific request, but w/e, I don't judge.

In my mind still is one of the top 5 smartphones available, even if it hasn't refreshed in a few years.

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