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Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with early 2000's-style software delivery wasn't that you could choose which software to install, it was that there was no separation between programs, so that any random program you installed could add toolbars to your browser, steal all your passwords, etc. If iOS or Android made it easier to install apps outside the store, I highly doubt you'd see anywhere near the same level of problems, since everyth…

> it was that there was no separation between programs, so that any random program you installed could add toolbars to your browser, steal all your passwords, etc. And for Linux or Windows this is still true.

I believe it's not true for UWP Windows Store apps?

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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People think I'm weird for not installing whatsapp because it downloads all my contacts and I can't prevent that in this version of android which I can't update because I can only do that through at&t while on their network but I get service through someone else because at&t doesn't cover my area. It's absurd.

Install LineageOS? WhatsApp doesn't have access to my contacts.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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It's not just ad fraud, they've been copying information like whatsapp phone number, reddit username, telegram username etc. https://www.reddit.com/r/miband/comments/8eqtve/why_did_mifi...

I actually can't believe this. How in the name of all the is holy are we letting them get away with this. Sure, we talk about the problem a lot. But we need to take action. It seems every big corporation are abusing the trust we give them in some form or another. Please, for the love of God, can anybody prove me wrong. Are there any companies than don't abuse our trust?

Microsoft, for all their other flaws, usually keeps out of the business of selling their consumers. Perhaps it's because they have better (internal) monetization possibilities.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually can't believe this. How in the name of all the is holy are we letting them get away with this. Sure, we talk about the problem a lot. But we need to take action. It seems every big corporation are abusing the trust we give them in some form or another. Please, for the love of God, can anybody prove me wrong. Are there any companies than don't abuse our trust?

Microsoft, for all their other flaws, usually keeps out of the business of selling their consumers. Perhaps it's because they have better (internal) monetization possibilities.

That's a fair point. I think many companies are doing such bastardly deeds because they can and because it brings in a profit. To some extent, if a company does not need to do such acts to survive & thrive, they will perhaps act more legitimately.

It makes a lot of sense to keep your customers happy in the long run (bottom line and stock value).

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually can't believe this. How in the name of all the is holy are we letting them get away with this. Sure, we talk about the problem a lot. But we need to take action. It seems every big corporation are abusing the trust we give them in some form or another. Please, for the love of God, can anybody prove me wrong. Are there any companies than don't abuse our trust?

Microsoft, for all their other flaws, usually keeps out of the business of selling their consumers. Perhaps it's because they have better (internal) monetization possibilities.

Last time I used a Windows computer, there were tons of advertisements in the start menu.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually can't believe this. How in the name of all the is holy are we letting them get away with this. Sure, we talk about the problem a lot. But we need to take action. It seems every big corporation are abusing the trust we give them in some form or another. Please, for the love of God, can anybody prove me wrong. Are there any companies than don't abuse our trust?

Microsoft, for all their other flaws, usually keeps out of the business of selling their consumers. Perhaps it's because they have better (internal) monetization possibilities.

Ads in the start menu? Omnipresent data collection in their crappy new os?

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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post #77

the locked in store model has completely failed. both for ios and android it is a terrible experience compared to PC. you are stuck with only the search tools the hardware maker gives you, often designed in a user hostile way (ios brings up ads) and no way to bail out to a different store. as well the monoculture leads to a race to the bottom with garbage programs shoving their way to the top via misleading a dishone…

> compared to PC How is Steam or Windows Store any different? How do you install apps/games on PC?

> How do you install apps [..] on PC?

Not through Windows Store, that's for sure :)))

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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the locked in store model has completely failed. both for ios and android it is a terrible experience compared to PC. you are stuck with only the search tools the hardware maker gives you, often designed in a user hostile way (ios brings up ads) and no way to bail out to a different store. as well the monoculture leads to a race to the bottom with garbage programs shoving their way to the top via misleading a dishone…

> the locked in store model has completely failed

Nope, it hasn't. It's very successful. It succeeded in lining the pockets of Apple and Google.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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post #99

I'm not entirely sure I have that much of a problem with ad fraud, doesn't it only hurt the ad companies and companies like google (which I have a problem with anyway), by basically scamming them into believing that I interacted so that company should be compensated. I do object to collecting and sending my personal information, but I feel they just mixed it, as that probably relates to more then just these Chinese a…

It hurts mostly the companies paying for ads, and probably mostly smaller ones that can't detect the issue. Think your local car dealer.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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> BuzzFeed News manually identified apps that requested a high number of permissions, including those assigned as “dangerous,”

A useful automated tool for this is 'Exodus' it will scan APKs for trackers and permissions and provide a web report.

Here is a report for one of the apps mentioned. https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/15627/

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