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Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

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the locked in store model has completely failed. both for ios and android it is a terrible experience compared to PC. you are stuck with only the search tools the hardware maker gives you, often designed in a user hostile way (ios brings up ads) and no way to bail out to a different store. as well the monoculture leads to a race to the bottom with garbage programs shoving their way to the top via misleading a dishone…

>and yea i know you can sideload on android, but the unwashed masses don’t know that so it doesn’t matter.

Then what is your solution? The unwashed masses tried the wild wild west of digital software delivery back in the 2000s. It ended with tears, viruses, UAC and SaaS. Even today, most sideloading, for general consumers, begins with trying to pirate apps and ends with even more invasive spyware.

The locked in store model is better than than what we had before for the general consumer (at least iOS's, unequivocally is, IMO). The App Store might be bad for developers, but it's way better for consumers.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

#13

Installing f-droid and using more simple and open source apps is one of the best things I've done lately.

and if you can avoid apps altogether and use their website instead, it is often better.. because they don't get as much power over your device.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

#14

the locked in store model has completely failed. both for ios and android it is a terrible experience compared to PC. you are stuck with only the search tools the hardware maker gives you, often designed in a user hostile way (ios brings up ads) and no way to bail out to a different store. as well the monoculture leads to a race to the bottom with garbage programs shoving their way to the top via misleading a dishone…

> and yea i know you can sideload on android, but the unwashed masses don’t know that so it doesn’t matter. Then what is your solution? The unwashed masses tried the wild wild west of digital software delivery back in the 2000s. It ended with tears, viruses, UAC and SaaS. Even today, most sideloading, for general consumers, begins with trying to pirate apps and ends with even more invasive spyware. The locked in stor…

I'd say that the sandboxing introduced by mobile OSes today solves the vast majority of the problem.

By isolating applications and introducing permissions, malware that can steal or encrypt user data isn't possible even for people installing those pirated APKs.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

#16

the locked in store model has completely failed. both for ios and android it is a terrible experience compared to PC. you are stuck with only the search tools the hardware maker gives you, often designed in a user hostile way (ios brings up ads) and no way to bail out to a different store. as well the monoculture leads to a race to the bottom with garbage programs shoving their way to the top via misleading a dishone…

> and yea i know you can sideload on android, but the unwashed masses don’t know that so it doesn’t matter. Then what is your solution? The unwashed masses tried the wild wild west of digital software delivery back in the 2000s. It ended with tears, viruses, UAC and SaaS. Even today, most sideloading, for general consumers, begins with trying to pirate apps and ends with even more invasive spyware. The locked in stor…

The solution is what has been suggested earlier: allow users to choose their own 'store', don't lock them to a single vendor. This is already possible with Android where F-Droid is a good example of a 'store' where the chance of being exposed to these shenanigans is close to zero.

Currently iOS users lack this option so for them the only way out is to change platform.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

#17

the locked in store model has completely failed. both for ios and android it is a terrible experience compared to PC. you are stuck with only the search tools the hardware maker gives you, often designed in a user hostile way (ios brings up ads) and no way to bail out to a different store. as well the monoculture leads to a race to the bottom with garbage programs shoving their way to the top via misleading a dishone…

>unwashed masses don’t know that so it doesn’t matter.

They seem to be able to find epic's fortnite just fine. What more do you want?

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

#18
Here is a solution for this problem: let's devalue mobile advertisements. How? Simple: every time you see an ad, add the product advertised to a blacklist. Refuse to download any app that advertises to you. I've been doing this for a few years, and have felt no negative effects; in fact I have way less app clutter on my phone, and I still find all of the apps that I look for. Advertising has changed in nature; it used to be about increasing visibility of your products. Now it is about compelling people who don't want or need your product into buying it, by using deception and psychological manipulation. So how do we kill the beast that the ad industry has become? Don't feed it.

Re: Popular Google Play store apps are abusing permissions and committing ad fraud

#19

the locked in store model has completely failed. both for ios and android it is a terrible experience compared to PC. you are stuck with only the search tools the hardware maker gives you, often designed in a user hostile way (ios brings up ads) and no way to bail out to a different store. as well the monoculture leads to a race to the bottom with garbage programs shoving their way to the top via misleading a dishone…

> and yea i know you can sideload on android, but the unwashed masses don’t know that so it doesn’t matter. Then what is your solution? The unwashed masses tried the wild wild west of digital software delivery back in the 2000s. It ended with tears, viruses, UAC and SaaS. Even today, most sideloading, for general consumers, begins with trying to pirate apps and ends with even more invasive spyware. The locked in stor…

The single source has many advantages but also many negatives.

Android apps run the risk of becoming facebook apps. A rising platform that had a lot going for it. Little by little more restrictions pushed many away and turned into what it is today.

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