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Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

#81
What I want are separate feeds for "firehose" and "friends".

My friends have better things to do than to post to Twitter 20 times per day. A bunch of firehose feeds (NYTimes news updates, for example) or Twitter celebrities (Nicole Cliffe) will make it impossible to see the signal.

A simple UI change (a "I don't plan to make any more tweets for 4 hours" button) should make this filtering trivial to accomplish.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

#82
I recently closed my Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit accounts. A week has passed since then and I have noticed that I have been really happy and optimistic. Probably the happiest in the last 5 years. I am still tempted to take a glance at Reddit or Twitter. It is almost a drug like addiction. These platforms are designed to provoke, agitate, and make you mad. It was immensely bad for my mental health and I am sure for countless others. I was time and again drawn to all the negativity and it had a slow pervasive effect in changing my mood. I sincerely hope as a society we move away from these toxic social platforms and go back to the days when we used to have civil in person conversations

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it So reddit. If you stick to smaller, interested based subs, reddit is a far superior product because it has human moderators and threading. The "breaking news" aspect of Twitter is extremely oversold imo, but people post things just as quickly on reddit.

I always tell people if they sign up for reddit, to immediately unsubscribe from the defaults and to specifically search for and subscribe to communities they may be interested in such as a subreddit for the city/state they live in or for any career interest or hobbies they have.

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Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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post #82

I recently closed my Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit accounts. A week has passed since then and I have noticed that I have been really happy and optimistic. Probably the happiest in the last 5 years. I am still tempted to take a glance at Reddit or Twitter. It is almost a drug like addiction. These platforms are designed to provoke, agitate, and make you mad. It was immensely bad for my mental health and I am sure for…

But can you close your HN account? That's the ultimate challenge.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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I recently closed my Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit accounts. A week has passed since then and I have noticed that I have been really happy and optimistic. Probably the happiest in the last 5 years. I am still tempted to take a glance at Reddit or Twitter. It is almost a drug like addiction. These platforms are designed to provoke, agitate, and make you mad. It was immensely bad for my mental health and I am sure for…

But can you close your HN account? That's the ultimate challenge.

Shouldn't only unhealthy social media accounts be closed? If anything, HN makes me a more thoughtful person because polite discourse is encouraged while poor discourse is reprimanded through mod actions (warnings and then bans).

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

#86

I don't understand why Twitter hasn't implemented some kind of reputation gradient that would allow users to filter by levels. Yes, I realize they are tricky to implement and subject to abuse but imagine you got points for using your real name, real photo, demerits for insults etc, then users could filter out hordes of trolls and gutter nonsense and instead focus on the meaningful conversations that do actually occur…

They could have copied Slashdot

But I'm not sure they know Slashdot

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

I'm doubtful of whatever sort of nonsense philosophical rationalization Dorsey comes up regarding how he thinks users should use, and should want to use the service. It's likely this:

> And while Dorsey said he’s less interested in maximizing time spent on Twitter and more in maximizing “what people take away from it and what they want to learn from it,” Anderson suggested that Twitter may struggle with that goal since it’s a public company, with a business model based on advertising.

I'm fairly certain that Anderson's expectation here is probably true, and that Dorsey is at best disconnected from the reality of how Twitter's business operates if he's not being outright disingenuous. The number of ads shown increases with the amount of time spent using the service, and assuming there is some business unit within Twitter tasked with increasing revenue, that business unit will likely attempt to increase time spent using the service. Inserting this extra garbage and preventing users from disabling it serves that purpose because it makes it more difficult to tell when you've reached posts you've already read and forces you to scroll longer to reach them.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

#88

I just want to see every tweet from one user and not miss anything. This doesn’t really seem possible anymore. At least as a non signed in user. And they’ve been bugging me so much to sign in I feel like I can’t give in if I’ve come this far.

realtwitter.com

...is a shortcut for activating the following filters: filter:follows -filter:replies

However, to your point, it still requires you to be signed in to work.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

#89

I don't understand why Twitter hasn't implemented some kind of reputation gradient that would allow users to filter by levels. Yes, I realize they are tricky to implement and subject to abuse but imagine you got points for using your real name, real photo, demerits for insults etc, then users could filter out hordes of trolls and gutter nonsense and instead focus on the meaningful conversations that do actually occur…

> Serious question: has Twitter released any new, major features in the last 2-3 years? Double-length tweets is the most major thing that comes to mind for me.

Yes. You're right. But even that -- how innovative is that as a feature?

I guess what I mean is: what innovative features have they introduced?

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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I recently closed my Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit accounts. A week has passed since then and I have noticed that I have been really happy and optimistic. Probably the happiest in the last 5 years. I am still tempted to take a glance at Reddit or Twitter. It is almost a drug like addiction. These platforms are designed to provoke, agitate, and make you mad. It was immensely bad for my mental health and I am sure for…

But can you close your HN account? That's the ultimate challenge.

The HN Tesla threads do make me mad :) I can deal with it though
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