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Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it

Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your feed based on likes") and it'll take ages to remember just how to turn it off.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it — rather than a network where everyone feels like they need to follow a bunch of other accounts

This is probably true for the majority of Twitter's users, but this is completely the opposite of what I want. Even with aggressively pruning the list of people I follow, I still feel the need to maintain topical lists with few people on them. (One of them is literally called "interesting" - it's for people who don't post often, but whose tweets I'm very interested in seeing, in chronological order, and don't want to lose in the shuffle and retweets and random shit twitter tries to inject into my stream.)

I want to curate my own content.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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post #2

> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

No matter how many times I click "Show less of this" it keeps coming back.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it — rather than a network where everyone feels like they need to follow a bunch of other accounts This is probably true for the majority of Twitter's users, but this is completely the opposite of what I want. Even with aggressively pruning the list of people I f…

Networks are trying to move away from long tail content since it is so expensive to moderate. I think in next 10 years expect social networks and video playing websites to become much like network television. Ie there will be a vetted list of large creators, and everyone else will be a consumer. To do that you need to take away peoples ability to control exactly whom they follow / subscribe to.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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post #2

> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

It's both for me at once. I want to see a specific topic and only 5 people's tweets around it.

I rarely search but isn't that what hashtags solve?

I think changes could be good but history says it will be worse.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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I don't understand why Twitter hasn't implemented some kind of reputation gradient that would allow users to filter by levels.

Yes, I realize they are tricky to implement and subject to abuse but imagine you got points for using your real name, real photo, demerits for insults etc, then users could filter out hordes of trolls and gutter nonsense and instead focus on the meaningful conversations that do actually occur there -- the verified checkmark is a proto-version of this.

Instead they rely solely on blacklisting, which is a never-ending game of whack-a-mole. Even HN has a more sophisticated system, where users can be shadow banned or have their comments appear lower than normal.

Not sure how useful this macro-scale philosophizing by Dorsey on Twitter itself is for delivering new, useful features to users. Serious question: has Twitter released any new, major features in the last 2-3 years?

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it — rather than a network where everyone feels like they need to follow a bunch of other accounts This is probably true for the majority of Twitter's users, but this is completely the opposite of what I want. Even with aggressively pruning the list of people I f…

We all have the same problem, but if all the tweets are from interesting people, the ads stand out from the high quality content too much, and the ad clicks go down. This is why there won't be any for profit company who would implement real user following :(

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Mr. Dorsey accurately answered the Nazi question with:

> “We have a situation right now where that term is used fairly loosely,” Dorsey said. “We just cannot take any one mention of that word accusing someone else as a factual indication of whether someone can be removed from the platform.”

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