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Besides signal, there is also 1. Threema. Swiss based but not Open Source AFAI 2. Frozen Chat. Android client based on Jabber XMMP/OTR
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I tried signal, much more inferior to WhatsApp in terms of functionality and usability
There are real tradeoffs between functionality and usability that any "more secure" chat service would have to deal with.
Sticker, channels, bots and supergroups are essential to attract communities.
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Just a few things: - Signal is a lot less "polished" - FB has spent tons more resources on making a slick streamlined easy to use interface. Even though signal looks similar its missing all the little things. - there is no easy to use backup. Whatsapp can backup to google drive or icloud and restore it on another phone. Signal you have to figure out how to deal with and transfer your backup file[1]. This isn't easy f…
Personally, I don't want backups. I don't want to worry whether some joke I made 10 years ago would look bad in a future data dump. If messages could self destruct after three years that would be lovely
Besides signal, there is also 1. Threema. Swiss based but not Open Source AFAI 2. Frozen Chat. Android client based on Jabber XMMP/OTR
Aside from the typical encryption worries here are some features I would love to see being offered on a alternative messenger app -ability to give out your alias or username to people to reach you on whatsapp instead of a phone number, something you can change later after banning the contact. -transcribe voice messages to enable search among them. -ability to hide the fact that i have listened to their voice message.…
> -[..] video [..] calls
> -ability to record the calls, and have their transcribed texts easily searchable.
> -ability to ignore certain kind of messages from certain people such as 'allow text messages only, no calls, no pictures, no videos.' etc.
Apart from these I believe Telegram offers already the other features (voice desktop calls are a bit unreliable often)
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Yes, because there is an inverse relationship to usability and security. Signal won't add a feature until they can call it entirely vetted and secure.
>inverse relationship to usability and security Not necessarily. You can easily have all kinds of shitty usability without it having anything to do with security.
Besides signal, there is also 1. Threema. Swiss based but not Open Source AFAI 2. Frozen Chat. Android client based on Jabber XMMP/OTR
I always wonder why few people here acknowledge Telegram, is it little know or is it not considered secure enough?
Self-written encryption.
Aside from the typical encryption worries here are some features I would love to see being offered on a alternative messenger app -ability to give out your alias or username to people to reach you on whatsapp instead of a phone number, something you can change later after banning the contact. -transcribe voice messages to enable search among them. -ability to hide the fact that i have listened to their voice message.…
the key is that the data has to be encrypted. currently i think whatsapp uploads your chat history as plaintext. this basically allows the corps. to get your data.
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There are real tradeoffs between functionality and usability that any "more secure" chat service would have to deal with.
In this Telegram made many nice choices. It can be end-to-end secure but it is also a viable Whatsapp alternative. Sticker, channels, bots and supergroups are essential to attract communities.
Besides signal, there is also 1. Threema. Swiss based but not Open Source AFAI 2. Frozen Chat. Android client based on Jabber XMMP/OTR
Frozen Chat seems to be removed from the Play Store, and I can't find many references to it online. Never heard of it before.