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And yet, here we are talking about business instead of health.
Because it's a business problem. The problem isn't that doctors don't know what to prescribe when you have an infection, it's that healthcare is so expensive that people can't afford it.
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Anyone who pays 10k in state taxes is going to be well into the top 10% of incomes.
Top 10% nationwide or state wide? 10k in state tax in California should be hittable with an entry level software engineer job at Google in the Bay area.
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's a business problem. The problem isn't that doctors don't know what to prescribe when you have an infection, it's that healthcare is so expensive that people can't afford it.
The problem is that people don't get healthcare. Price is just the rationalization for denying it.
Then the question is, do you want to decide that amount for yourself, or have someone else deciding it for you?
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#224As employers switch to High Deductible Health Plans where insurance doesn't kick in until one has spent a deductible of several thousand dollars, many people are delaying health care in general. A doctor's visit that once cost a co-pay of $30 is now frequently a cash price from $130 to $400, plus more for lab work. With higher costs and much of them unknown in advance, many skip getting things checked until it seems…
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#225Canadians with their great health care system seem to think that they need ~250K salary/year to feel comfortable [1] So most people are either too desperate or aspiration too high that no government in the first world can make them happy. 1. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/11/03/average-salary-cana...
And Canadians think they need $750k for retirement - are they expecting to retire for three years and then die?! https://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/the-magi...
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I think it is reasonable as a society that we should have options for living alone that are affordable.. or otherwise pay living wages.
Based on what do you think that? You can be happy, healthy, and safe, even if you have to share a kitchen and bathroom. Single-resident dwellings are the exception throughout human history. Not that I necessarily disagree with you - I'm still figuring out how exactly to think about this issue.
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> Why why why do you put up with this in America?? What do you suggest we do? > I honestly don’t understand why not every single American is screaming for access to health services that are literally on their front lawn. You think we aren't? You think it matters?
Look at the last election... results speak for themselves, that is why people are confused why this isn't the single largest issue for American people.
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#228As employers switch to High Deductible Health Plans where insurance doesn't kick in until one has spent a deductible of several thousand dollars, many people are delaying health care in general. A doctor's visit that once cost a co-pay of $30 is now frequently a cash price from $130 to $400, plus more for lab work. With higher costs and much of them unknown in advance, many skip getting things checked until it seems…
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Nuclear powered aircraft carriers are cheaper than diesel powered aircraft carriers.
I believe the point was that aircraft carriers are more expensive than no aircraft carriers.
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Through no fault of the author, this comment thread explains the trick. The article talks about US health care access but the discussion quickly goes off into the weeds of the US health insurance market. As soon as we start talking about premiums we adopt business language and metrics and abandon medical language and metrics. All that money is pocketed by businesses run for profit. It's pocketed because it can be. It…
> As soon as we start talking about premiums we adopt business language and metrics and abandon medical language and metrics. To provide healthcare you need doctors, who need money to pay rent and student loans. You need an office to put the doctors in. You need drugs and medical devices, and researchers to come up with them. You need lawyers to keep the doctors from conducting the Tuskegee Experiment. And nurses and…