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It Doesn’t Count Unless I Know You’re Hitting on Me.

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#21

Wow that youtube video she included was the most annoying thing I've seen all week. I lasted 30s. And yes, she does sound self-involved, as she speculates at the end of the post. Of course she gets to have her rant (why ask?) but I have to wonder why... it doesn't come off very well.

Well she's got eight, count em, EIGHT pictures of herself and her shiny red lips at the top of the page. So yeah, self-involved? Could be.

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#23
I'm surprised at the arrogance and even offensiveness of several of the comments posted here. (I'm also reminded of the currently trending article about sexual harassment and assault at OSS conventions.)

The author's issue not with men hitting on her, as she clearly explains. Her issue is with men obtaining her contact information ostensibly to do business and then using that contact information to hit on her.

Really, is that distinction so hard to understand? Stop excusing bad behaviour under the guise of "biology" or other lame rationalizations. They are as demeaning to men as they are insulting to women.

Re: It Doesn’t Count Unless I Know You’re Hitting on Me.

#24
post #11

How are so many comments misreading things? She's not complaining about being hit on. She's complaining about a bait-and-switch -- pretextually getting her number or other contact information in a business context, and using it later for personal contact.

She explicitly said that she will reject anyone who hits on her. How's that not complaining about being hit on?

No.

She's saying that anyone who wouldn't hit on her, but still take her card and use it to get a date, are the types of guys she'd want to reject if they did suddenly decide to hit on her.

Re: It Doesn’t Count Unless I Know You’re Hitting on Me.

#25
Why doesn't she get a second phone/line for business only. If someone abuses that then at least they don't have her personal number and she can deal with the inappropriate use of her business number accordingly.

She could also make it clear on the card that it is a business number.

Re: It Doesn’t Count Unless I Know You’re Hitting on Me.

#27

I'm surprised at the arrogance and even offensiveness of several of the comments posted here. (I'm also reminded of the currently trending article about sexual harassment and assault at OSS conventions.) The author's issue not with men hitting on her, as she clearly explains. Her issue is with men obtaining her contact information ostensibly to do business and then using that contact information to hit on her. Really…

I think there are two different realities that fit the evidence we've been presented with equally well. One is unacceptable -- and she's well within her rights to complain; the other is acceptable -- and she's making too much of the issue.

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that the following is the case:

  The men "hitting on" her are perfectly polite and 
  interested in her professionally, but also want to see if 
  there's a chance of a date.  If she were to reply, "sorry 
  no", they would leave it at that.
If that reality is the case, her comments are completely unwarranted. She hasn't presented any evidence that excludes that reality, therefore she comes across as whining.

Re: It Doesn’t Count Unless I Know You’re Hitting on Me.

#28
post #18
post #7

Two things: 1. You're a woman, and men will hit on you, and that's not a bad thing; it's biology. 2. If you think SF men are aggressive, then obviously you haven't been out much. I don't think I've been anywhere in the world that's LESS aggressive than SF when it comes to dating/mating. Go to Brazil and see what aggressiveness is.

#2 doesn't make it right. Does a woman not have the right not to face that? If you've got a girl, don't you feel personally that she shouldn't have to face that? At what point are aggressive come-ons just harassment?

"Does a woman not have the right not to face that?"

Are you speaking for ALL women?

In Brazil, women love it when you aggressively peruse them.

In SF, men don't talk to women, and women's number one complaint is exactly that.

Re: It Doesn’t Count Unless I Know You’re Hitting on Me.

#30
I suspect the bait-and-switch wouldn't be such an issue in a more sexually equal environment. Physicians are about 50:50 and while I've heard plenty of female doctors complain about being called "nurse", I've never heard a complaint about "bait-and-switch". I have heard a few complaints about "where'd all the men go?"

The environment in tech sounds about like the military: women have to be prepared to physically fight their own team. Which is deeply unfortunate.

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