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Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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We have 11 nuclear powered aircraft carriers in service in four more on the way. No money for healthcare.

Nuclear powered aircraft carriers are cheaper than diesel powered aircraft carriers.

I believe the point was that aircraft carriers are more expensive than no aircraft carriers.

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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post #124

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Why would anyone lend money without interest?

Well, if you can basically create money out of thin air, then the interest rate for loaning it out ought to be pretty low.

Especially when you will be bailed out by the government.

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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Why why why do you put up with this in America?? I live in the uk and health has always been free at point of use. The cost is spread amongst all tax payers and costs kept low. I honestly don’t understand why not every single American is screaming for access to health services that are literally on their front lawn. I cannot fathom this is any way shape or form.

Many of these articles exaggerate the price of healthcare in the US. I'm an independent contractor and pay for my own health insurance. My wife and I together cost less that 500/month (universal care would take way more in taxes) Checkups are covered, prescriptions are mostly free or very inexpensive, and if I do have an emergency, I don't need to wait 6 months to get treated, like in the UK or Canada. I also get som…

That's some blatant misinformation. In Canada you don't wait for treatment. If you need treatment, you will be treated. Stop spreading some garbage myth.

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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post #124

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Why would anyone lend money without interest?

Should probably add: why would anyone lend money without interest to someone they don’t know ?

Because there’s a very substantial system of laws and governance enforcing the terms of the loan.

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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post #186

Why why why do you put up with this in America?? I live in the uk and health has always been free at point of use. The cost is spread amongst all tax payers and costs kept low. I honestly don’t understand why not every single American is screaming for access to health services that are literally on their front lawn. I cannot fathom this is any way shape or form.

Many of these articles exaggerate the price of healthcare in the US. I'm an independent contractor and pay for my own health insurance. My wife and I together cost less that 500/month (universal care would take way more in taxes) Checkups are covered, prescriptions are mostly free or very inexpensive, and if I do have an emergency, I don't need to wait 6 months to get treated, like in the UK or Canada. I also get som…

This post must be missing a sarcasm tag... the average cost of healthcare in the USA is HUGE and far higher than most other developed countries. As for quality, you are severely underestimating the clinical care provided in countries even as "underdeveloped" as India (I quote it because I'm sure you might have that opinion of the country in question).

If you have any kind of moderate condition in the USA you are likely screwed. Of course our system protects against catastrophic incidents and helps with basic checkups but everything in between is not covered by most plans.

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You'll find payday loans at upwards of ~1700 percent, depending on state regulations. It's pretty ridiculous.

I’m sure the default rate is also pretty ridiculous. That’s what the APR is paying for, after all.

Probably not as much as you think. People often take out further loans to pay their payday loans. It becomes a self fulfilling system.

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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Why why why do you put up with this in America?? I live in the uk and health has always been free at point of use. The cost is spread amongst all tax payers and costs kept low. I honestly don’t understand why not every single American is screaming for access to health services that are literally on their front lawn. I cannot fathom this is any way shape or form.

> Why why why do you put up with this in America?? What do you suggest we do? > I honestly don’t understand why not every single American is screaming for access to health services that are literally on their front lawn. You think we aren't? You think it matters?

Look at the last election... results speak for themselves, that is why people are confused why this isn't the single largest issue for American people.

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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As employers switch to High Deductible Health Plans where insurance doesn't kick in until one has spent a deductible of several thousand dollars, many people are delaying health care in general. A doctor's visit that once cost a co-pay of $30 is now frequently a cash price from $130 to $400, plus more for lab work. With higher costs and much of them unknown in advance, many skip getting things checked until it seems…

I paid 400 dollars to have a doctor tell me to neti pot my nose after having sinus infection for 3 months. Might not be rational but fuck everything about this system. Who is pocketing all this goddamn money?

The armies of administrative workers:

1. https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2018/07/23/administr...

2. https://www.athenahealth.com/insight/expert-forum-rise-and-r...

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

#199

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The solution to people’s inability to save is not for the government to hold their money hostage.

> The solution to people’s inability to save is not for the government to hold their money hostage. Meanwhile, in the real world where the left-hand side of the Bell curve exists, and where many people have poor impulse control, that actually is the solution to some people's inability to save. Heck, as a student I worked in a union shop where this was actually baked into the collective agreement because of past exper…

Then make it a line item in the budget called basic income or savings something transparent, and give it to everyone.

Re: Americans Are Delaying Health Care Until Tax Refunds Arrive

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post #185

Why why why do you put up with this in America?? I live in the uk and health has always been free at point of use. The cost is spread amongst all tax payers and costs kept low. I honestly don’t understand why not every single American is screaming for access to health services that are literally on their front lawn. I cannot fathom this is any way shape or form.

Because the vast majority of people have coverage through work and the fear of unknown changes in coverage is greater than (potentially) saving some money. Throw in Medicare (old people) and Medicaid (poverty) and I think you’re somewhere around 85% of the populace covered. The vocal minority of people who do not have health insurance through work, not receiving subsidies, not receiving Medicare, and not receiving Me…

People get stuck working for corporations because it’s the only economical way to get healthcare, even if they could otherwise pull off entrepreneurship/freelancing/retirement. Others get stuck as subservient to parents or spouses who control their access to healthcare.

I wouldn’t assume that having coverage means you’re happy with the situation.

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