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Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by neltnerb »

Nextgrid wrote: post #14

I am not sure the "niche" Facebook used to fill even exists anymore. The social landscape has changed for the worse. People no longer want to connect with friends, they want to show off how better/popular/wealthier they think they are. Even if someone relaunched that era's Facebook without all the crap I wouldn't be surprised if today's society still manages to make it toxic.

I don't think this is really true, those conversations just aren't on Facebook. Like my family has a signal group and my friend group has a signal group people post random stuff in. I would prefer better options, not really sure what will ever be right. Honestly email is underrated, the granularity in who hears your discussion is pretty straightforward to use.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by neltnerb »

juststeve wrote: post #60
rjplatte wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't? I generally wear long sleeves, but I prefer to be comfortable at concerts.

I actually haven't been to one, but I should go and see what it's like. Apparently the sound is much better? Wearing a suit feels a bit pompous, but it would be interesting to hear what the musicians and conductors think about the audiance's attire. I assume most don't care.

As a performer, and an occasional attendee, what people wear doesn't matter. It's the music that's important. But wearing slacks and a button down seems right for the room.

That said, I'd encourage anyone to go to a concert wearing jeans vs not going to a concert. The music is what's important.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by bcherny »

labster wrote: post #49
adjkant wrote: post #44

IMO Facebook has three useful features left: the personal rolodex, event planning, and groups. I truly think that a large number of users would migrate over if someone replicated those three. No large info collection on your profile, no wall or posts, just a friend/messaging option, the ability to create events, and to organize into groups made by users to make posts there only, not in public. You know, to actually m…

Those were the same three features that were a core part of thefacebook before they introduced the News Feed. If it was the same site that it was in 2005, but with more people, I'd still be using it. But now, it's mainly a machine that turns other people's content into dollars.

Groups was launched in ‘08, I think.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by auntienomen »

azangru wrote: post #53

I am from approximately the same age group as the author. I remember FidoNet and PhpBB forums. I remember blogging, and LiveJournal. But I completely missed the Facebook craze. The first time I logged into Facebook — after having used LiveJournal for several years — I was shocked by the unfamiliarity and unintuitiveness of the interface, and the total absence of formatting options. I looked around — and then ran back…

LiveJournal was, for my money, the correct balance of text to image content. You could upload photos and other media, but it was a bit of a pain. And in 2006, people didn't necessarily have the ability to play media anyways, at least not without a few false starts. Consequently, people wrote. Their thoughts weren't always that interesting. But they were at least original and the product of real effort. It worked fairly well, and was a lot more appealing to me than memes and viral marketing.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by TheSpiciestDev »

lordnacho wrote: post #15

Hits the nail on the head. For me the main uses of FB are now: 1) Rolodex of friends, with reminders from the ones who actually use it. 2) Bad version of stumbleupon. Seriously large amount of unuseful content, but it does kick up something interesting now and again. 3) Reasonable funnies stream. There's always someone with a good meme. There's no real content though. All the news commentary is simply terrible. Loads…

Recently "live comments" were introduced and I cannot read a simple body of text without it constantly being bumped around because of loaded comments from timeline entries above.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by jugg1es »

This article reminds me of a complaint I've had about online gaming. I'm 36 and I remember when all online FPS games were played on centralized servers. If you logged on at the same time of day, you would see the same players you saw yesterday. Over time, you would develop relationships with those people and perhaps you would eventually meet them in real life. I have 2-3 very good real-life friends that I originally met online because of centralized FPS servers.

Nowadays, you can jump on an online FPS whenever you want and have a full server of players. But the chances you'll play someone from yesterday are very slim unless you deliberately 'friend' them. I feel sorry for kids growing up right now that are missing out on finding your own 'people' online.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by agumonkey »

I never think positively about facebook these days, but one author's point rings a bell:

there's a point before and after society rerooted itself over internet (jobs, businesses), which caused a huge change. Everything is a business in disguise now.. no more freedom

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by leetbulb »

jugg1es wrote: post #66

This article reminds me of a complaint I've had about online gaming. I'm 36 and I remember when all online FPS games were played on centralized servers. If you logged on at the same time of day, you would see the same players you saw yesterday. Over time, you would develop relationships with those people and perhaps you would eventually meet them in real life. I have 2-3 very good real-life friends that I originally…

I had the same experience and agree with your sentiment. Some people I've explained this to have argued that you can still experience this by joining clans, guilds, etc, but it's just not the same, not as organic.

Meeting someone in an FPS server and growing a relationship with them has the same feeling as being a kid, wandering off to a playground on your own a few blocks away, and making a friend.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by agumonkey »

jaabe wrote: post #13

I miss IRC, for a lot of the same reasons the author misses Facebook. Being above 35 like the author, I think it’s more the fact that people just aren’t chatty anymore. It’s anecdotal of course, but if I look at myself, I’m really not that chatty anymore either. I too used to have late night chats about random stupid things, but right now, I can even remember when I last saw 3AM unless it was to feed a baby or clean…

are you saying there's a market for Augmented Baby attending ?

I agree with your point about age, that said IRC is still pretty much the same, and even if you don't live in it as passionately as you (we) did before, it's still ~the highest signal/noise system out there.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by agumonkey »

charleshan wrote: post #52

This really hits home. So what ruined Facebook? The Wall was replaced by an algorithm which sunk original content below a flood of ads, fake news, and externally shared content "you might like". We stopped seeing original content. Then, people stopped sharing personal stuff, as nobody interacted with it.

Isn't it part of the usual pattern of .. maybe everything ?

Things catch wind, and they try to leverage and survive long term .. changing their "core" value in the process, much to the despair of users. Twitter did change a lot too .. you could say the same for artists also.

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