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Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by __david__ »

acomjean wrote: post #70
manish_gill wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs is the one environment that I've been a fan of from afar. I recognize the brilliance and power of it, but a few things have always kept me away from using it on the Mac. And I've put in serious attempts, including going emacs-only, then a custom evil mode, then spacemacs - - The server mode compatibility with the way Mac applications are set up. I'd ideally want an emacs server running in the background, and a…

I use aquaemacs on Mac. http://aquamacs.org It’s a very impure emacs but I like it as it interstates in macOS well. (Drag file into icon and it opens. The cut/paste from Mac works well). A lot of my emacs use is ssh into remote server based so I use that most of the time.

Straight emacs handles drag events and integrates well with the system clipboard, FYI.

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Post by int_19h »

agumonkey wrote: post #12
jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

I wonder what kind of programs get to follow you for so many decades.

On Windows, some file managers are in this category. E.g. Far has been around for about 25 years now, and still has a cult-like following, especially in Eastern Europe / ex-USSR.

ImageMagick is another one that has been around for almost 30 years, and is the Swiss army knife of batch image processing on any platform.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by TeMPOraL »

oska wrote: post #156
mrspeaker wrote: post #114

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I've gone all in, I'm in for life. Emacs has already deprecated at least a dozen apps, web apps, and websites I used to frequent. I'm starting to despise any other software... ...so when does someone teach me the secret handshake?

Mind sharing some examples of what Emacs has deprecated for you?

Not OP, but: e-mail client, calculator, calendar app, TODO list app, terminal app, file browsing app, invoicing app, Jupyer notebooks (org mode can do you better), Git client and - obviously - text editor with syntax highlighting.

Some people even replace their window manager with Emacs (see: EXWM), but I'm not ready for this just yet (I run stumpwm now, which is a tiling WM written in Common Lisp, so it's just another lispy environment with similar levels of live interop).

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by skummetmaelk »

zelly wrote: post #143
bbbobbb wrote: post #48

I wish I spent time learning how to use Emacs in the past to a degree where customizing my installation was faster than learning something else. As I stand now, it seems really hard to justify to invest time into it when the benefits over using something very easy to work with (like JetBrains IDEs for Java or VS Code for Python) sound marginal. I know experts can fly around in it and it looks amazing. Having a single…

At this point honestly it's an objectively worse decision to not use modern IDEs. (It's not a matter of taste anymore.) IDEs have gotten really good. If you only use Emacs or vim, you're literally putting yourself at a competitive disadvantage. All the avante garde language extensions (Rust, D, etc.) support VS Code better than Emacs now. VS Code is where all the new ideas are tried first.

Objectively? Yeah I don't think so.

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Post by black-tea »

pnw_hazor wrote: post #119
black-tea wrote: post #57

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Writing markdown with emacs is a huge step up. Now you get to take another big step up when you use org-mode instead of markdown. I'm actually pretty envious.

I use org-mode for note taking and some task tracking. My main doc writing setup is more like an ide setup. markdown docx with pandoc lets me use a ref-doc.docx file that ensures all the styling I need for legal docs gets into the word doc. So you make a markdown file from the ref-doc.docx then edit the markdown file and convert to docx using the same ref-doc and everything in docx has the correct style, and stuff li…

Yeah, I've done that with pandoc too, but I use org-mode. It's much more pleasurable to write than markdown. I don't use a great deal of org-mode features when writing, I suppose, but just being able to fold up sections and knowing the keys to quickly jump between them and rearrange them is great.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by peterbecich »

billfruit wrote: post #54

Is the multi threaded implementation, being talked about for some time part of this release? Sometimes the single threaded nature of emacs causes problems while running complex setups like cider, nrepl etc.

Not from this release, but this is the most recent thing I've been able to find about concurrency:

> This is also only the first step in bringing threading to Emacs Lisp. Right now there’s effectively a global interpreter lock (GIL), and threads only run one at a time cooperatively. Like with generators, the Python influence is obvious. In theory, sometime in the future this interpreter lock will be removed, making way for actual concurrency.

https://nullprogram.com/blog/2018/05/31/

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Post by chombier »

mrspeaker wrote: post #114
TypingStuff wrote: post #108

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+1. I recall thinking it was a text editor with inferior key bindings to vim, and with a bunch of unnecessary weirdness. I'm glad I took the time to investigate this discoverable interactive programmatic keyboard-oriented UI platform, that also happens to have a great editor (evil). A uniquely empowering tool for programmers.

I've gone all in, I'm in for life. Emacs has already deprecated at least a dozen apps, web apps, and websites I used to frequent. I'm starting to despise any other software... ...so when does someone teach me the secret handshake?

  M-x secret-handshake

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by yolo1 »

rgoulter wrote: post #195
andrenth wrote: post #10

What’s a good resource for learning emacs for someone who’s been using vim for more than 20 years?

http://emacs.sexy/ points to a bunch of useful resources, including an Awesome Emacs which points to a bunch more. Tuhdo's tutorials feature a bunch of animated gifs about his use/setup, which is quite nice. I haven't tried distributions like spacemacs or doom-emacs (which is lighter-weight than spacemacs, with fewer abstractions above emacs). I think emacs is software which benefits from being well understood by the…

Also check out https://cestlaz.github.io/stories/emacs/
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