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Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by jkdufair »

kstrauser wrote: post #88
snazz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen this pop up a lot lately—someone who’s been using Emacs or Vim for years and then sees the “new cool” editor and says they’ll be switching to it. I have the same question, since someone who’s used Emacs for that long would surely have “seen the light” already. Maybe they’re yak shaving with the config instead of getting work done? That’s one of the few valid complaints I can think of.

I used Emacs for a couple of decades but switched over to VS Code after a couple of days of playing with it. I love Emacs and the concept of infinite configurability. But as it turns out, I don't actually use most of that flexibility. It's more common that I'll install a package, tweak a couple of knobs, and get on with work. Well, VS Code offers the equivalents of all the Emacs packages that I actually use, and they…

Emacs has multiple cursors: https://github.com/magnars/multiple-cursors.el

I used VSCode for a few years, but never found a way to work with code in semantic units vs. as text. And I like that no matter what language I'm working in, the experience is the same. VSCode plugin editors may or may not (read: wouldn't have) agreed on a set of conventions for working with code independent of the programming language.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by regularfry »

brlewis wrote: post #72
young_unixer wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you had RSI issues? Do you use it with the default keybindings? I've tried it a few times but the default keybindings seem unnatural to me. Not that it's Emacs fault, considering the keyboards they used back then.

I've been using the default keybindings for decades and never had RSI issues. The only time my wrist has started to bother me is when I use some other program that involves a lot of mouse motion.

The first time I ever had wrist issues, they were triggered by emacs and a crappy keyboard. I switched to a split keyboard, and they went away. Unfortunately it was a split keyboard with membrane keys, so the going away was only temporary.

I've since switched to a proper mechanical keyboard and all is fine with the world.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by azinman2 »

mrspeaker wrote: post #35
jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

I only just understood Emacs about a year ago, despite being a nerd for at least 30 years. I like to think I don't have too many regrets in life - but I'm kicking myself for not realizing what Emacs was way back then - or at any of the times I've tried it out in the past (writing it off as "a text editor")! Never too late though, and on the plus side I've now got decades of hidden Emacs goodies still to discover!

Just imagine when you discover vim!! :)

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by paultopia »

manish_gill wrote: post #33
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #3

I'm really happy to see Emacs move faster, and especially the integration of package management since version 25. The old beast is still kicking! For what it's worth, I've actually been using on macOS the Mituharu branch [1], available in MacPorts as "emacs-mac-app". This version adds the [s]essential[/s] smooth-scrolling feature, and just in general seems to be slightly better integrated into macOS (except that it d…

Emacs is the one environment that I've been a fan of from afar. I recognize the brilliance and power of it, but a few things have always kept me away from using it on the Mac. And I've put in serious attempts, including going emacs-only, then a custom evil mode, then spacemacs - - The server mode compatibility with the way Mac applications are set up. I'd ideally want an emacs server running in the background, and a…

Oh yeah, the server mode thing makes me a little crazy. Whenever I want to reboot my Mac, I have to force-quit Emacs.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by zaiste »

andrenth wrote: post #10

What’s a good resource for learning emacs for someone who’s been using vim for more than 20 years?

Be sure to check Doom [1] as well. It's Emacs for « a stubborn vimmer ». One of its goals is to be fast and hacker friendly. It's a smaller community than Spacemacs.

Also, the default theme is fantastic along with great defaults for key bindings.

[1]: https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by giggles_giggles »

azinman2 wrote: post #103
mrspeaker wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only just understood Emacs about a year ago, despite being a nerd for at least 30 years. I like to think I don't have too many regrets in life - but I'm kicking myself for not realizing what Emacs was way back then - or at any of the times I've tried it out in the past (writing it off as "a text editor")! Never too late though, and on the plus side I've now got decades of hidden Emacs goodies still to discover!

Just imagine when you discover vim!! :)

M-x package-install RET evil

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by 8456523 »

teddyh wrote: post #97
8456523 wrote: post #92

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I admit that I have spent a lot of time adjusting Emacs to my preferences (by writing Emacs Lisp code that gets loaded automatically every time my Emacs starts). I am not particularly unhappy about that fact however and will probably spend a lot of time writing code that runs inside vscode if it becomes my daily driver. Note that I use the graphical interface to Emacs and would've left Emacs many years ago if itworke…

> f there is already an selection, the click causes the start or the end of the selection to move to the site of the click, which is behavior I've not seen in any other GUI Emacs does that in X11 because that is (or at least was ) the standard behavior for text selection in X11. Emacs is simply conforming to the environment it is running within.

Emacs's Mac (graphical) interface does that, too, which is not conforming to the environment it is running in.

And there is no user option for changing it to a contextual menu containing Cut, Copy, Paste, etc. (I changed it for myself by writing about 100 lines of Emacs Lisp.)

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by TypingStuff »

mrspeaker wrote: post #35
jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

I only just understood Emacs about a year ago, despite being a nerd for at least 30 years. I like to think I don't have too many regrets in life - but I'm kicking myself for not realizing what Emacs was way back then - or at any of the times I've tried it out in the past (writing it off as "a text editor")! Never too late though, and on the plus side I've now got decades of hidden Emacs goodies still to discover!

+1. I recall thinking it was a text editor with inferior key bindings to vim, and with a bunch of unnecessary weirdness.

I'm glad I took the time to investigate this discoverable interactive programmatic keyboard-oriented UI platform, that also happens to have a great editor (evil).

A uniquely empowering tool for programmers.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by black-tea »

celeritascelery wrote: post #98
black-tea wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am so glad that I took the time to learn emacs during my uni days more than ten years ago. I would see everyone else using absolutely awful IDEs that they never actually understood while I was learning how everything really worked and setting up emacs to make my life easier. Nowadays I see people struggling with slightly less bad tools like VSCode and they often ask me about emacs but they just don't have the time…

200GB? Are you sure about that?

Yep. I'd never seen it before, but you can find other people talking about it online.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

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Post by emacsvimlover »

jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

Kudos to you. I have tried and failed miserably to learn emacs many times. The switch from vi seems to be really hard but I really like emacs and hope to become a pro user someday.
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