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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Stop spreading lies. Wikileaks has leaked plenty of shit on Russia too.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia... What would you say about this article? I have Little knowledge about Assange

Vox is not a reliable source for information and has a clear bias. They were pushing pro Clinton articles left and right while lying about Sanders' tax plan.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Of course Ecuador can revoke asylum. It's very common practice around the world if a person's circumstances change and their original country is now safe. Likewise if Ecuador believes that there is no longer a threat to Assange they can revoke it.

Yeah, absolutely nothing to do with a corrupted politician and US pressure. It's just finally safe for him to face his rape charges. /s

There are no rape charges. He has not been charged with any crime.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Being reported in The Guardian: > Elisabeth Massi Fritz, lawyer for the Swedish woman whose case against Assange remains outstanding, has given the Guardian a longer statement: > "My client and I have today received the news that Assange has been arrested in London. It did understandably come as a shock to my client that what we have been waiting and hoping for since 2012 has now finally happened. We are going to do…

Rape? The charges against him were Sexual Assault for allegedly not using a condom. It's been escalated to rape now?

No, there were no charges against him. He has not been charged with a crime in any country.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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The alternative to prosecutorial discretion is 100% enforcement of all crimes big and small. In either situation, the government would go after these people for their small crimes so the outcome for the targets you're mentioning is the same. Also, Capone was convicted by a jury on evading (in 2019 dollars) millions in taxes, so 'small' is relative only to massive corruption scheme and murdering he wasn't convicted on…

Or, once a bunch of elites go to jail, the laws get changed so that only serious crimes are indeed 'crimes' and the rest get civil penalties in proportion to the means of the offender.

If US drug convictions against the rabble, versus the elite and well-connected (or even just black vs white) are any indication, you would get penalties inversely proportionate to the means of the offender.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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The Nordic countries, New Zealand, Switzerland and Singapore are perceived as least corrupt by experts and in opinion polls. Do the citizens agree?

I'm Danish. Prime minister is a drunken buffoon with no apparent shred of personal integrity, and generally I hold all politicians to be only in it for the perks and the power and the sex, but no, I wouldn't call our government corrupt , just institutionally inept, because politicians are not in the business of reasoning, and the administrative apparatus is Pournelle's iron law run amok. We simply don't do corrupt to…

The fact that you were offered a bribe today, and it does not seem like a big deal to you, makes your argument somewhat weaker.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I wonder if this has to do with the upcoming DECLAS. Seems that would be coming up soon given what Barr has just testified.

This was my first thought as well, think there are 2 possibilities: 1. The Mueller report presents uncomfortable yet legal, coordination with WikiLeaks, in which case extraditing and prosecuting Assange would allow administration to distance itself and present any coordination as incidental. 2. Assange releases were cited in FISA requests. If intelligence agencies had an established assessment on Assange's ties to Ru…

Maybe they want to get him to the U.S and get his testimony into evidence. Extradition from the U.K might be difficult after DECLAS.

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It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. It's actually not 100% clear that he's broken any US laws in any ways that they aren't also routinely broken by newspapers. There's a few avenues: 1) Publishing classified information. Easy to show that he did this but a very difficult path to go down when American newspapers do this all the time. 2) Conspiracy to commit espionage. Probably the most like…

> It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. Don't worry no such thing exists, it's all conspiracy theories as they said for years...

They were conspiracy theories when they were first made. This indictment was issued six years after he entered the embassy. If the US had wanted to extradite him at the time, they could've tried at any point in the two years that he was in the UK before skipping bail.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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My understanding, which may be inaccurate, was that manning was tortured via not letting him/her sleep for more than a few minutes at a time for several months on the grounds of suicide prevention. I'm quite worried about assange: BBC suggested a 6 month jail sentence, but I don't think anyone believes that is how he will get off if the USA gets him.

Please correct my story about manning if I am misinformed.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Skipping bail; failing to surrender to the court after he was previously released on bail. The sexual assault case against him in Sweden has since been dropped, but the warrant for skipping bail is still active.

breaching bail is not actually a criminal offence https://greenandblackcross.org/guides/should-i-ignore-police...

That article is about police bail. Assange was bailed by the courts. The breach of court bail is an offence punishable by up to 12 months imprisonment.
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