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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by nabla9 » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #77

rudiv wrote: post #45

RIP. It's only a matter of time before he's extradited, and I would think the current US government would definitely push for the death penalty under the Espionage Act. I suppose it's little solace that he'll join a long list of illustrious names prosecuted under that infamous act. (Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, Victor Berger, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden)

Neither the UK nor Sweden is legally able to extradite to countries where there is a risk of the death penalty being applied.

It applies only to cases where death penalty is possible. Even in those cases extradition is possible after prosecutor agrees not to seek death penalty.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by mcv » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

antocv wrote: post #65

Do you guys remember when the airplane of president Morales, was forced down in Vienna when he was on a flight home? Breaking diplomatic immunity, hospitality etc. Just because CIA believed Assange was in that flight, that Morales would help him escape. EDIT: My mistake, that was for Snowden, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales_grounding_incident

Yeah, I remember. A disgrace on several levels. I really wish a European country would have had the spine to give Snowden asylum.

Not the same issue as Assange of course, unless, as Assange claims, this too is the long arm of the US secretly trying to get whistleblowers extradited. I'm not sure that's the case here, though; I think the Swedish rape allegations have merit, and unlike Snowden, I don't think Assange has broken any US laws for which he can be extradited; he's just doing journalist work. Sloppily and with grandstanding megalomania, perhaps, but that's not illegal and thus no basis for extradition.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by garmaine » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

Stuckinsofa wrote: post #118

antocv wrote: post #90

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri... "Apache pilots watched people run into a building and engaged that building with several AGM-114 Hellfire missiles." "controversy following the release of 39 minutes of gunsight footage by leaks website WikiLeaks." "Press reports of the number killed vary from 12[1][2] to "over 18".[3][4] 2 journalists were killed, and 2 children were wounded." The murde…

Oh come on. The fact that he has done some good doesn't mean that he is above the law.

What law, exactly?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by lutoma » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

chvid wrote: post #12

About time. It will be good see his case brought before the courts whatever they will be in the US, UK, Sweden ... staying in the embassy for so many years is just absurd.

Finally some reason. Can't believe all the comments here supporting Assange. I guess they have drunk the wikileaks cool-aid.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by rndgermandude » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

jackweirdy wrote: post #2

> Ecuadorian embassy withdrew his asylum and UK police were invited in to arrest him. According to a journalist at Sky news https://twitter.com/NewsTMac/status/1116274082922803200

He has been a citizen of Ecuador since 2017. This was an extradition.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by garmaine » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:21 AM UTC

isostatic wrote: post #114

Mvandenbergh wrote: post #91

It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. It's actually not 100% clear that he's broken any US laws in any ways that they aren't also routinely broken by newspapers. There's a few avenues: 1) Publishing classified information. Easy to show that he did this but a very difficult path to go down when American newspapers do this all the time. 2) Conspiracy to commit espionage. Probably the most like…

America could have just as easily extradited him from the UK as from Sweden.

He wasn't in the UK.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:21 AM UTC

yreg wrote: post #127

antocv wrote: post #90

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri... "Apache pilots watched people run into a building and engaged that building with several AGM-114 Hellfire missiles." "controversy following the release of 39 minutes of gunsight footage by leaks website WikiLeaks." "Press reports of the number killed vary from 12[1][2] to "over 18".[3][4] 2 journalists were killed, and 2 children were wounded." The murde…

He wasn't arrested for that specific video.

Nobody would be that stupid to try to arrest him for this.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by mrtksn » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:21 AM UTC

ColanR wrote: post #120

mrtksn wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It did, it's a video of an NSA official murdering a congressman at a park then making it look like a drug overdose. I have to say, NSA operatives have really bad haircuts.

Wow. Do you have a link?

Okay maybe I should't be joking on this, it's the plot of the movie called "Enemy of the State". Nice movie.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by pjc50 » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:21 AM UTC

lazyjones wrote: post #60

purpleslurple wrote: post #38

Julian Assange used to be hailed as a hero for exposing American hypocrisy, but with the secretive way wikileaks operated and the track record of anti-US releases, perhaps it was only a matter of time before Assange and wikileaks were used as pawns for geopolitics. Still, I'm curious when did Assange willingly start working for Russia --- was it from the very beginning, or was it after his legal troubles? I wonder wh…

You'd think that after the stupid Russian collusion story was dismantled by the recent Mueller report, people would be a little more careful with such paranoid allegations, but here we go...

The story was hardly dismantled. A number of people have actually pled guilty and been jailed for crimes as a result. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/m...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by newsgremlin » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:21 AM UTC

belorn wrote: post #25

This mean that the single most expensive police case in the history of UK will have an end. It will be interesting to see the final price tag in respect to the final verdict.

All that just to charge him with skipping bail. It's not even a question on whether he will be extradited to the US.