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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I was writing a long post but I deleted it. I don't know what to say, I don't like the guy, but I have an even stronger dislike for how international politics and intelligence services work.

I also feel the same way. He may have committed some heinous crimes outside of the actual hacking/leaking but to say we all didn't benefit from what we learned regarding how our government spies on us would just be flat out wrong..

> He may have committed some heinous crimes outside of the actual hacking/leaking

Pretty serious throwaway comment without stating what "heinous crimes" were apparently committed..

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> URGENT: Ecuador has illegally terminated Assange political asylum in violation of international law. He was arrested by the British police inside the Ecuadorian embassy minutes ago. Source: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116273826621480960 Holy moly, this will be interesting! EDIT: If you're interested, here's a video of him being escorted out of the embassy -- https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/111628109…

What does Julian say in the video?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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post #45

RIP. It's only a matter of time before he's extradited, and I would think the current US government would definitely push for the death penalty under the Espionage Act. I suppose it's little solace that he'll join a long list of illustrious names prosecuted under that infamous act. (Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, Victor Berger, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden)

If he’s likely to face the death penalty, then he has an excellent legal defence against extradition. If he’d left earlier, he’d have had a chance to appeal to the ECJ too. Ooops

The UK hasn’t left the EU yet and just negotiated the extension to Brexit to October 31 of this year at the latest. I don’t see why Assange wouldn’t be able to appeal now unless his case never gets there before Brexit.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

#114

It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. It's actually not 100% clear that he's broken any US laws in any ways that they aren't also routinely broken by newspapers. There's a few avenues: 1) Publishing classified information. Easy to show that he did this but a very difficult path to go down when American newspapers do this all the time. 2) Conspiracy to commit espionage. Probably the most like…

America could have just as easily extradited him from the UK as from Sweden.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found the Swedish rape case fishy. Are there any facts (going both ways) to speak of at all?

The accuser has ties to the CIA. You don’t need to know more than that. It was all really badly staged.

I'd massively disagree with the statement "You don't need to know more than that.", and I'd love to see some sources to back this up.

Randomly spewing "facts" with no evidence to back up your claim can be quite damaging.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also feel the same way. He may have committed some heinous crimes outside of the actual hacking/leaking but to say we all didn't benefit from what we learned regarding how our government spies on us would just be flat out wrong..

What crimes did he commit? Honest question. I heard that someone accused him of being a rapist but then dropped the charges so I guess it was false. What else is there?

What you've heard is false. The investigation was dropped simply because there was no way to proceed with the investigation with him still hiding away in the embassy. The investigation will be reopened if he returns to Sweden before August 2020 when the statute of limitations expires for the minor rape allegation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973864

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri... "Apache pilots watched people run into a building and engaged that building with several AGM-114 Hellfire missiles." "controversy following the release of 39 minutes of gunsight footage by leaks website WikiLeaks." "Press reports of the number killed vary from 12[1][2] to "over 18".[3][4] 2 journalists were killed, and 2 children were wounded." The murde…

Oh come on. The fact that he has done some good doesn't mean that he is above the law.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

#119
post #92

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From all accounts it's to do with Assange's behaviour. Helping to elect Trump and being an annoying guest is not something that helps people like you.

I'm honestly out of the loop. Is there concrete irrefutable evidence Assange helped electing Trump? Seems weird, even more so with them then turning around and pushing for his arrest. And being an annoying guest? Are you talking about the new rules introduced by the embassy only to be looked at later saying "you broke them"?

There's no evidence. They just used the old intelligence technique where media repeats 24/7 that Assange allegedly has ties to Russia, so that people start taking it as a fact after a while.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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post #101

I wonder if the WikiLeaks "Dead Man's Switch" will be triggered this time? I know there were some news articles in the last couple of years of this being the case...

It did, it's a video of an NSA official murdering a congressman at a park then making it look like a drug overdose. I have to say, NSA operatives have really bad haircuts.

Wow. Do you have a link?
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