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Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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I run a free mentoring service for managers as a form of community service. I'm happy to talk this through live if you think it'd be valuable. https://freemanagermentors.com With that being said, let me take a crack at it here! My number one response for hiring top talent is always tapping internal referrals. Asking your current employees for the name of the best person they've ever worked. Repeat that process for ev…

Thank you for doing this. I will try to reach you on the site. I believe this topic will be useful to many other business owners.

Re: Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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I don't know anything about your particular company, and I'm not hiring myself, but here's my two cents from the other side of the table: 1) If you want elite engineers either offer them elite compensation and/or elite working conditions (remote, flexibility on workload, many weeks of vacation, time shifting, etc.). 2) If you want elite engineers make sure they know your job offer is elite by publishing specific comp…

Thank you for the 2 cents. Very useful suggestions. I have experimented with disclosing the compensation. The result was a bit surprising - less applications. Can disclosed compensation be intimidating to some? My pain point is getting the offer infront of the right eyes.

Well, being approachable is a benefit too. You don't want people thinking that you will take them through crazy interviews like Google does if that's not what you're doing, so again I'd say the answer is revealing more information about what your hiring process looks like.

Similarly for work hours - if you publish an uncommonly good salary range you better explain what you're expecting in return, in terms of work hours, vacation, etc., or else I might think you will work me to death especially if you have stereotypes going against you (east coast, gaming, finance industries, etc.)

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Speaking of platforms and getting in front of the right eyes, consider presenting at relevant tech events and conferences. Your dev team will probably be excited to share some cool things that they're doing.

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It is also possible that your offer is not as good as you think. Could your target candidate get a job at Google with significantly more pay, vacation, etc.? Consider offering them something that Google won't - remote work, 4 day work week, autonomy, etc.

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Also, the platform you choose to advertise on has a lot of impact on how revealing more information is perceived.

For example, something like AngelList treats job offers like house listings, letting applicants filter by compensation, technology, industry, etc.

On a platform like this where it's routine to see compensation published, putting up a range that is 30K-50K higher than your competitors is exciting, not intimidating.

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(Another disclaimer that I'm not an expert on this by any means, just sharing my feelings.)

Re: Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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For talent as in demand as elite engineers, your's or your team's network is critical. Following that, paying a recruitment firm is runner up, but its a big step down from network (and a big step up in cost).

During the early days of my previous company (which currently has a ~30 person engineering team), the founding team scoured our networks, reached out to people personally, and did everything we could to share the inspiration we felt about the company. That plus fair compensation, allowed us to bring on some awesome people.

The good news is elite talent tends to know other elite talent, and if they love the company, they become natural evangelists. A generous referral bonus also helps, however means nothing if your people don't already love your company. The end result is this attracts more talent!

Occasionally we'd supplement this with recruiters, but our network was 5x more efficient, and wayyyy less expensive even with referral bonuses we paid to employees.

I'm in the process of starting my next company, and while I'm not hiring engineers for another 6+ months, I'm meeting with everyone in my network and anyone they recommend to let them know about the company. People are already excited, and it's also just plain fun to meet smart people and catch up with friends. From there, I keep people in the loop and also try to support them in their endeavours. This leads to a lot of 'serendipity', where your company is top of mind for people as they plan their next move, which hopefully aligns with when you're hiring.

Now compare that to a random job post or inmail message on LinkedIn.

Re: Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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One thing I don't see mentioned in your post or the replies is geographic location. I'm a software engineer living in a relatively low COL state. My pay isn't the greatest so I talk to the FANG recruiters when they contact me. They seem to be aware that not all of us can move to the Bay Area at the drop of a hat so they tell me that I can have my pick of city (usually Seattle/Austin/Atlanta)

Agreed with others that network can be pretty key. Even for acquaintances I've recruited to my current company (3 so far), our company was not in their radar but they were immediately willing to try it out since I gave them my recommendation (and all of us remain here)

Re: Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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You hire elite talent by competing in the talent marketplace with compensation and opportunity. If I can go to FB/Goog and pull down ~350k+ a year, why should I come work for you? You need to have a really good answer or something that is differentiating/compelling enough. Either that or you'll have to be comfortable settling for lower quality talent and the associated consequences - it becomes a strategy question at…

Yes, compensation is not the issue. It is finding the people.

Just to confirm, you are well above 350k, correct?

Re: Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, compensation is not the issue. It is finding the people.

Just to confirm, you are well above 350k, correct?

He can be far below that if he adds some other goodies. People vary, so not everybody will agree, but for example:

a. not engaged in tracking people across the web or elsewhere, or any other kind of sneaky spying

b. location that doesn't require being well above 350k to have a nice life

c. politically like the other half of America

I would not accept a FB/Goog job for 350k. Add a golden parachute worth twenty million dollars and I might reconsider, but that isn't normally offered.

Re: Ask HN: How do you hire top talent in 2019?

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I don't know anything about your particular company, and I'm not hiring myself, but here's my two cents from the other side of the table: 1) If you want elite engineers either offer them elite compensation and/or elite working conditions (remote, flexibility on workload, many weeks of vacation, time shifting, etc.). 2) If you want elite engineers make sure they know your job offer is elite by publishing specific comp…

This. Best job would be: Remote (your own timezone); Pay: $180K-$360K; 40 Vacation Days; Work on hard crazy tech; Will be surrounded by smarter people etc
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