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Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

> Please don't impute astroturfing or shillage. That degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about it, email us and we'll look at the data.

> Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents.

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Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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post #2

Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

Why do you expect it to get ads? The vast majority of Google products are ad-free, apart from Search and YouTube.

the ads aren't directly in the product, but that data ends up trying to provide you with "relevant" ads, just like the Android phone itself.

Are people honestly not creeped out when you get ads from other people's phones?

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Google is distinct in their bad attitude though. What it feels like is: An engineer at google builds something cool. Management decide it could be a product, and a bit of tooling here and there and BAM it’s released. It goes well, then it stays. It goes poorly or even just average, then it gets thrown out. And what of the users who put faith in the new product? Screw them it’s not profitable enough. Compare to AWS, a…

> Compare to AWS AWS is not a consumer-facing organization. The standards there are entirely different. Google Cloud has a much more stable offering than Google writ large. Very few of the products on gcemetery.co are cloud-related.

How is AWS not being consumer facing relevant? Both Google and Amazon started out being consumer facing and now have a cloud division. Their cloud divisions not being consumer facing is irrelevant.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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TMForum are developing an end to end standard for model dev and management, unfortunately it's closed but I really think that standardised components (feature store, model store, model registry) and model non functionals (identity, use history, status) with standardised API's are pretty necessary. BTW : deployed to prod is only 50% of the story; someone poor fool has to manage (and account for) these things in life!

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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I'm really not happy to see this. This further entrenches people into Google's AI platform where all the input data will be harvested for ad revenue and even further profiling of human data. Laws enshrining natural rights of privacy of personal data can't come soon enough.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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post #11
post #2

Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

> Please don't impute astroturfing or shillage. That degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about it, email us and we'll look at the data. > Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorry!

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you expect it to get ads? The vast majority of Google products are ad-free, apart from Search and YouTube.

the ads aren't directly in the product, but that data ends up trying to provide you with "relevant" ads, just like the Android phone itself. Are people honestly not creeped out when you get ads from other people's phones?

It's worth noting that earlier in the Google Next keynote, they had a slide on Privacy and that they will not access your data in GCP unless you request that they do so.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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I'm thinking of integrating this into Polar for people that use our cloud sync support.

I should be able to use the documents and their tags to build more derivative tag data so that when I'm given a new document I can compute a set of automated tags for the user.

This way when you save a document to your repository it's given some suggested tags.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Compare to AWS AWS is not a consumer-facing organization. The standards there are entirely different. Google Cloud has a much more stable offering than Google writ large. Very few of the products on gcemetery.co are cloud-related.

How is AWS not being consumer facing relevant? Both Google and Amazon started out being consumer facing and now have a cloud division. Their cloud divisions not being consumer facing is irrelevant.

The person I'm responding to is comparing product shutdowns between AWS (a cloud services divsion of Amazon) to Google (a company that contains both a cloud services division and a vastly larger consumper products division). This is an apples to oranges comparison. That's how it's relevant.

Before you say, "Amazon never shuts anything down, even outside of cloud." A) They do [1]. B) They have a tiny range of products compared to Google, so of course the absolute frequency of shutdowns will also be lower.

And before you say, "Well, better to have nothing than to have something and have it shut down." A) Some people [2] would disagree. B) Just don't use products in the category (consumer services) that Google tends to shut things down in.

But, please, whatever you do, don't spam every single thread where Google launches a cloud product (a category where they have a decent track record) with your gripes about Google Reader or whatever. It's not helpful and it's not relevant.

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2015/10/25/9605840/amazon-shuts-dow... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred,_Lord_Tennyson

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