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Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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This is being announced now in the Google Next keynote.

This platform focuses not on the this-AI-is-magic-and-can-solve-everything like many AI SaaS startups announced on Hacker News, but focuses on how to actually integrate this AI into production workflows, which is something I wish was discussed more often in AI.

The announcements here, including AutoML Tables (which is coincidentally similar to my own Python package: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19492406), the new BigQuery BI tools, and the new Google Sheets integrations, make me a very happy data scientist.

I'm taking the rest of the week to figure out how to integrate everything announced into my team.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

3) How many times a month will the API you're using get deprecated and how much developer time will you have to dedicate to keeping up with Google's API changes?

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

Why do you expect it to get ads? The vast majority of Google products are ad-free, apart from Search and YouTube.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

I wish that people would stop with this unproductive line of commentary. Google shuts down consumer products sometimes. Pruning back the set of unprofitable things you're working on is good business. Expect to see Google and literally every other successful company continue to take this approach to unprofitable lines of business.

Also, how would putting ads on a developer platform be profitable? It's far more likely that they would charge money for it.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

Why do you expect it to get ads? The vast majority of Google products are ad-free, apart from Search and YouTube.

And Gmail

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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Bets on: 1) When it will be shutdown? 2) When it will get ads? EDIT: Does google have a paid shill force on hacker news? They are copying well from the IBM and Apple playbook

I wish that people would stop with this unproductive line of commentary. Google shuts down consumer products sometimes. Pruning back the set of unprofitable things you're working on is good business. Expect to see Google and literally every other successful company continue to take this approach to unprofitable lines of business. Also, how would putting ads on a developer platform be profitable? It's far more likely…

Google is distinct in their bad attitude though.

What it feels like is: An engineer at google builds something cool. Management decide it could be a product, and a bit of tooling here and there and BAM it’s released. It goes well, then it stays. It goes poorly or even just average, then it gets thrown out. And what of the users who put faith in the new product? Screw them it’s not profitable enough.

Compare to AWS, an engineer writes something cool, it gets evaluated by a project team, the business benefit and support infra is put in place, its trialed with a few users, its honed, then if it gets good KPIs then it’s generalised and released as a product. They subset very slowly and always make sure there’s a clear migration path, with humans in support to help the developers if need be.

Saying “Google and literally every other successful company continue to take this approach to unprofitable lines of business” is too reductive : nobody is contesting that a business shouldn’t cut out unprofitable actions, but the repeated, drastic culling and the “f-you we know best” attitude they take makes developers distrust google.

Google is too whimisical with both releasing and retiring products.

Re: Google launches an end-to-end AI platform

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I wish that people would stop with this unproductive line of commentary. Google shuts down consumer products sometimes. Pruning back the set of unprofitable things you're working on is good business. Expect to see Google and literally every other successful company continue to take this approach to unprofitable lines of business. Also, how would putting ads on a developer platform be profitable? It's far more likely…

Google is distinct in their bad attitude though. What it feels like is: An engineer at google builds something cool. Management decide it could be a product, and a bit of tooling here and there and BAM it’s released. It goes well, then it stays. It goes poorly or even just average, then it gets thrown out. And what of the users who put faith in the new product? Screw them it’s not profitable enough. Compare to AWS, a…

> Compare to AWS

AWS is not a consumer-facing organization. The standards there are entirely different. Google Cloud has a much more stable offering than Google writ large. Very few of the products on gcemetery.co are cloud-related.

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