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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by dano »

While on vacation with my extended family I found myself somewhat socially excluded from everyone else as they could share photos via airdrop. I provided the group a shared Google Photos album and a few pictures were uploaded, but not as many as they shared directly. I also have trouble receiving SMS messages with Vcard attachments from iPhone users.

One other point, I ran a major outdoor event this weekend and rented iPads for square transactions. There was no question in my mind that we would rent iPads instead of Android tablets. Why? Because all of our ticketing people we're already familiar with the platform.

Android and iOS platforms are not yet interchangeable from a user experience perspective, and I think that's what drives the kids to the iPhone. It's what everyone else has and if I have one, I'm fully interoperable.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by cryo »

beatgammit wrote: post #109
khaki54 wrote: post #44

I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

You're nicer than me. If I had a teenager, I wouldn't buy them a smartphone at all. In fact, as a teenager, most of my friends had cell phones, but I didn't. And it was completely okay. When I went to college, I purchased my own cell phone and plan, which I paid for with the job I got while going to school. My family wasn't poor, my parents just didn't think I needed a cell phone, and they were right. I'll probably g…

this.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by scotty79 »

kyriakos wrote: post #108
Nextgrid wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure why you don’t consider it successful. Here in London iOS is the default. Android-wise I only see two categories of users: power-users that chose Android for functional or ideological reasons, and budget-constrained users that cant afford or don’t see the value in an iOS device. Both those groups seem to be the minority, just looking around for people on their phones in public places yields a majority of…

Android is pretty huge in Europe. London could be an exception. Surprising even Chinese brands became popular lately with own physical stores in Western European capitals.

I think there is a patriotism component in iPhone US prevalence.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by Nextgrid »

koyote wrote: post #107
Nextgrid wrote: post #32

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I am not sure why you don’t consider it successful. Here in London iOS is the default. Android-wise I only see two categories of users: power-users that chose Android for functional or ideological reasons, and budget-constrained users that cant afford or don’t see the value in an iOS device. Both those groups seem to be the minority, just looking around for people on their phones in public places yields a majority of…

Pretty much all of continental Europe (including wealthy countries such as Germany) have iPhone market share at less than 20%; the UK is the outlier there.

France is also an exception then from what I remember pre-2015 (unless things changed dramatically since then).

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by anoncake »

brazzledazzle wrote: post #54
beefsack wrote: post #6

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You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

Kids can also be extremely mean and some will jump all over “green text” kids. Apple certainly doesn’t help by closing their API. Not that they should have to open it but it’s not like they have a really affordable option anymore so the pressure on low income kids and subsequently their parents is pretty strong.

If keeping the API closed causes bullying, then yes, Apple absolutely should have to open it.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by neapolisbeach »

mandelbrotwurst wrote: post #45
khaki54 wrote: post #44

I swear my stepdaughter hates me because I gave her my old Nexus 6P. It's a sweet phone, I don't understand the issue. I don't want to give in and buy her an iPhone, but she had tears in her eyes when I told her $800 wasn't the greatest use of funds.

Blue chat bubbles > green ones seems to be a big piece of it. You're not wrong.

As a current student this is a huge part of it.

People with androids (green messages) will not be added to group chats because it turns everyone else's messages green. When making plans they will usually get texted individually but it can unintentionally lead to exclusion.

Texting someone with an android is much less convenient than using an iPhone and anecdotally this is one reason kids choose iPhones over Android.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by mcphage »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #52
paulcole wrote: post #47

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He’s not wrong but the niece isn’t wrong either. Style and being cool matter more to some people than others.

Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool? Or are you all Android owners who don’t realize that people who prefer Apple products tend to actually like them?

> Does anyone consider the possibility that she prefers the overall iphone experience, and is not choosing it to be cool?

Does she have experience with both platforms, to be able to prefer one over the other?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

coolreader18 wrote: post #102
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #82

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Which phone do you have?

An Android (Moto Z3), which I chose because I preferred it to an iPhone, and, more recently, because Android is slightly more open-source than iOS.

Thought so. And that’s why I would not give your opinion any weight.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by IshKebab »

chrisseaton wrote: post #63
coolreader18 wrote: post #55

As a student at a middle to upper class high school, I can say that it's definitely not about the actual features of iOS vs Android -- it's just a status symbol. People with iPhones are considered slightly "cooler", or at the very least it's more hip to have an iPhone than an Android. Apple's walled garden contributes to its dominance as well, if all your friends are using FaceTime and iMessage, there's not much that…

Maybe these people just like iPhones and it's not some big cynical setup?

Unlikely or the split would be similar in other rich western countries. It isn't, because everyone uses WhatsApp and that is available on Android.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by yufeng66 »

neapolisbeach wrote: post #116
mandelbrotwurst wrote: post #45

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Blue chat bubbles > green ones seems to be a big piece of it. You're not wrong.

As a current student this is a huge part of it. People with androids (green messages) will not be added to group chats because it turns everyone else's messages green. When making plans they will usually get texted individually but it can unintentionally lead to exclusion. Texting someone with an android is much less convenient than using an iPhone and anecdotally this is one reason kids choose iPhones over Android.

As a parent of teenager, it’s exactly that. Android phone messes up the iMessage group chat. So kids with Android phone tend to get excluded. Apple is obviously in no hurry to fixed issue. iMessage turn out to be the stickiest social network for the next generation.
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