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Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#32

Crypto's main issue is not the UX. It's the volatility and costs(i.e merchants pay less for the same crypto). Until these two issues are fixed it makes no sense to use crypto payments unless you are denied access to mainstream payment networks(visa/mastercard). The VPN should be integrated at the OS level not browser level.

Crypto in this case is also being used as an authentication / password replacement system. Signing with your wallet address proves you are a specific person. So that alone is a great reason to include the wallet.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#33
post #10
post #5

"Web 3 is an umbrella term for a set of emerging technologies intersecting cryptocurrencies, blockchains and distributed systems" wat?

Yeah, seems like marketing bullshit (1) to me, even if the functionalities themselves seem pretty good (in theory, haven't tested yet). (1) The term might be stronger than needed; I meant something a lot closer to "click-baity" than "garbage".

I don't think it's stronger than needed, I think you worded it exactly right, marketing bullshit is a phrase different from 'bullshit' so the sentiment is understood. It's a lot of marketing buzzwords they're making up to hype up something more than it needs to be hyped up. I absolutely hate when people / companies try to hijack terms that don't belong to them. Edit: to clarify, calling something Web 3 is confusing cause we had the adoption of Web 2.0 around the mid to late 2000's which was a huge deal, Web 3 is just wrong.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#34
post #6

Two questions : How different is this reskined chrome different than brave if I were to consider using it? Can we still rely on opera and trust them (after their Chinese acquisition)?

In general, I would not be inclined to implicitly trust any Chinese company less than any US company

However, I do believe that reliance and trust in Opera of yore would have been based on those running it before circa 2011-2013 when there was a major change of staff, resignation of founder, switch to Chromium/Blink, etc. That all predates the Chinese acquisition (2016)

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that they sell a lot of it does not mean it's trustworthy. That means it's cheap and cost-effective, all else being equal. Trust, and the use of information, however, are exquisitely difficult to assess until it's too late. And humans, as a species, are well known for trading less pain now for more pain later.

> The fact that they sell a lot of it does not mean it's trustworthy I did not claim that. I merely said that it powers most of the world - meaning that most of the world is compromised, if so.

> most of the world is compromised, if so.

This is the only assumption which is safe to make.

The question is not if your internet communications are being monitored, the questions are who and why.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#36
post #7
post #2

Looks very good to see VPNs and crypto integrated as first-class citizens into a webbrowser. Also love the nightmode.

What is the point of having crypto integrated into the browser? Native bitcoin mining malware?

It's so that even more people can lose their crypto coins through insecure/faulty software.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#39
post #19
post #5

"Web 3 is an umbrella term for a set of emerging technologies intersecting cryptocurrencies, blockchains and distributed systems" wat?

This is especially frustrating, considering that Sir Tim Berners-Lee himself has said, that “Web 3.0” should be about Semantic Web[1]. That does mean that it should get easier to build distributed and interlinked systems, but that seems to be a consequence, not the goal. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web#Web_3.0

The semantic web without transactions is like the www without hyperlinks. How do you weight anything? Who cares about a pristine, motionless dataset?

Maybe crypto transactions, basic at first but growing in complexity as each industry works out their own standards is how a decentralized semantic web will eventually energe

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#40
post #23

In addition to ad blocking, VPN is becoming a very important feature for modern web browsers. With so many countries blocking websites and websites geoblocking users it becomes necessary to help users circumvent that to access a wide web. This is kind of the whole point of web browsers, give access to world wide web, not local web. Interestingly, Opera trying to compete with other browsers makes it pursue users inter…

It’s a small jump from blocking websites to blocking popular VPNs. I know two countries which block websites (Russia and Kazakhstan) and they either block or have plans to block VPNs. I don’t see centralized VPN as effective solution for that problem.

Of course it's not a solution for countries that block VPNs, but most countries that block websites don't do that.
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