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Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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post #6

Two questions : How different is this reskined chrome different than brave if I were to consider using it? Can we still rely on opera and trust them (after their Chinese acquisition)?

Are you saying that any Chinese company is untrustworthy? Because most of our world runs on Chinese technologies, eg. the ZTE hardware a technician has just installed at my home. Edit: that is NOT an argument for its trustworthiness...

The fact that they sell a lot of it does not mean it's trustworthy. That means it's cheap and cost-effective, all else being equal. Trust, and the use of information, however, are exquisitely difficult to assess until it's too late. And humans, as a species, are well known for trading less pain now for more pain later.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that any Chinese company is untrustworthy? Because most of our world runs on Chinese technologies, eg. the ZTE hardware a technician has just installed at my home. Edit: that is NOT an argument for its trustworthiness...

The fact that they sell a lot of it does not mean it's trustworthy. That means it's cheap and cost-effective, all else being equal. Trust, and the use of information, however, are exquisitely difficult to assess until it's too late. And humans, as a species, are well known for trading less pain now for more pain later.

> The fact that they sell a lot of it does not mean it's trustworthy

I did not claim that. I merely said that it powers most of the world - meaning that most of the world is compromised, if so.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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post #7
post #2

Looks very good to see VPNs and crypto integrated as first-class citizens into a webbrowser. Also love the nightmode.

What is the point of having crypto integrated into the browser? Native bitcoin mining malware?

I guess identity and paying creators for content is the primary focus. ie brave.

their definition of web3 is kinda limited as it revolves heavily around cryptocurrencies instead of the more broad vision of web3 that is basically anything decentralized; ipfs, dat, zeronet, etc.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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post #7
post #2

Looks very good to see VPNs and crypto integrated as first-class citizens into a webbrowser. Also love the nightmode.

What is the point of having crypto integrated into the browser? Native bitcoin mining malware?

I'm not a blockchain specialist, but I guess you can have native identity / wallet / interaction on a blockchain (like Ethereum) without having to rely on browser extension (like Metamask) !

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#17
post #6

Two questions : How different is this reskined chrome different than brave if I were to consider using it? Can we still rely on opera and trust them (after their Chinese acquisition)?

I think in terms of track records there isn't a huge difference between a Chinese-owned and a US-owned company. If you're already searching outside that sphere of influence, that makes you a huge outlier. Assuming that you are not, I think putting just the focus on the nationality here is maybe not a strong argument in any direction.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

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post #7
post #2

Looks very good to see VPNs and crypto integrated as first-class citizens into a webbrowser. Also love the nightmode.

What is the point of having crypto integrated into the browser? Native bitcoin mining malware?

I wonder if it's an alternative take on payments, such as Apple Pay being integrated into Safari.

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#19
post #5

"Web 3 is an umbrella term for a set of emerging technologies intersecting cryptocurrencies, blockchains and distributed systems" wat?

This is especially frustrating, considering that Sir Tim Berners-Lee himself has said, that “Web 3.0” should be about Semantic Web[1]. That does mean that it should get easier to build distributed and interlinked systems, but that seems to be a consequence, not the goal.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web#Web_3.0

Re: Reborn 3: Desktop browser with Web 3, faster VPN and ad blocker

#20

> Our browser VPN is completely free and unlimited, as well as being a no-log service. Our VPN servers do not log or retain any activity data. Few days ago we were discussing how VPN is important but won't save the day if you don't know what you are doing. When we have calls of "I won't log you", I always try to image how tha mine's bird will be set: and if have to log me under some subpoena, how will I know?

yeah, just assume all VPN are logging you for sure. That does not mean they don't serve a useful purpose though. Just not what is defined as criminal in whatever place your traffic goes through. (That being said, I think it is only the US that tries to get people for "cyber crimes" in foreign countries?)
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