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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by npunt »

pxeboot wrote: post #15
npunt wrote: post #12

These types of surveys are at best directionally accurate, as I doubt their 8000 teens are a representative sample. Are we to believe that 20% of teens own an Apple Watch, as this survey suggests?

They admit to focusing on middle class to high income households, so they might not be far off in those groups. Definitely not representative of the whole country though.

Maybe it's a regional thing, as the South was oddly oversampled at 45% of the 8000. I don't hang around teens but do make a point of looking at what tech they're using when I see them, and I've never seen one wearing a smartwatch of any kind. Apple Watch is just getting to the hand-me-down stage so maybe that's it.

I totally buy that Apple has a very strong brand with teens, I just don't see smartwatches as being must-haves for teens. I'd guess more teens would want to put the extra $$ into a newer smartphone (faster & with a better camera) instead of a secondary device.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by Nextgrid »

btian wrote: post #18
beefsack wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

Then why is iOS not generally successful outside US?

I am not sure why you don’t consider it successful. Here in London iOS is the default. Android-wise I only see two categories of users: power-users that chose Android for functional or ideological reasons, and budget-constrained users that cant afford or don’t see the value in an iOS device. Both those groups seem to be the minority, just looking around for people on their phones in public places yields a majority of iPhones.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by roenxi »

beefsack wrote: post #6
matchbok wrote: post #2

Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

Conversely, it can't be discounted that the fashion might follow functionality. Apples has a lot more experience than Google at creating comprehensively great user experiences.

Google's signature successes, Search and Mail, have wildly different success criteria for user satisfaction than an operating system. Apple's signature successes all have operating systems and then there is the iPod which is a bit different.

The iPhone is differentiated by much more than Apple's marketing. Everybody markets their product.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by amanzi »

8bitsrule wrote: post #29

Interesting. How were geographically and socio-economically diverse were these surveys? Were they verified? It's hard to assess these results without knowing: 1. how many of those teens had any choice; 2. how many teens had an informed choice; 3. how many teens reported having no phone.

With regards to "geographically and socio-economically diverse" - those details are on page 2.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by npunt »

8bitsrule wrote: post #29

Interesting. How were geographically and socio-economically diverse were these surveys? Were they verified? It's hard to assess these results without knowing: 1. how many of those teens had any choice; 2. how many teens had an informed choice; 3. how many teens reported having no phone.

The choice bit is I think decently covered by the future purchase intent questions. The diversity / proper sampling of respondents is definitely questionable though.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by Nextgrid »

Alex3917 wrote: post #13
stevenjohns wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

> I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. I mean a better question at this point is perhaps why Apple engineering hasn't been able to implement RCS.

RCS is designed to be controlled by the carriers. You know what else is controlled by carriers and has gone to shit as far as spam and security is concerned? SMS.

We actually have to thank the “walled garden” for the lack of spam on iMessage.

While I’d like Apple to also support RCS, I still want iMessage to remain the default for communicating with iOS users.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by hylianwarrior »

Kaveren wrote: post #5
whalesalad wrote: post #3

blue bubbles vs green bubbles is a real thing

I do wonder what the impact of this is. I can't think of any good way you could study it other than surveying people. Does this have a discernible market effect under demographic most vulnerable to social pressure?

There is absolutely a market impact

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by xbmcuser »

npunt wrote: post #31
pxeboot wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They admit to focusing on middle class to high income households, so they might not be far off in those groups. Definitely not representative of the whole country though.

Maybe it's a regional thing, as the South was oddly oversampled at 45% of the 8000. I don't hang around teens but do make a point of looking at what tech they're using when I see them, and I've never seen one wearing a smartwatch of any kind. Apple Watch is just getting to the hand-me-down stage so maybe that's it. I totally buy that Apple has a very strong brand with teens, I just don't see smartwatches as being mus…

Apple has sort of a lock in for teens in the US because of its imessages app from what I understand. This is something unique in North America as rest of the counties use messaging apps like whatsapp

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Post by hylianwarrior »

stevenjohns wrote: post #8
matchbok wrote: post #2

Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

> I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage

It's not because Google is doing a bad job, it's because Apple is doing a _great_ job.

Apple's framing of iOS as a luxury brand is why the "blue vs. green bubbles" type of sentiment has real impact within younger social circles.

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