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Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

Note that outside the US the numbers are very different, if not for other reason than most people not being able to afford or willing to pay the iPhone premium.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

> I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage.

I mean a better question at this point is perhaps why Apple engineering hasn't been able to implement RCS.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

Signal does it just fine - I can only assume that Google is distracted or just doesn't care.

Probably that they consider it wouldn't generate revenue.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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These types of surveys are at best directionally accurate, as I doubt their 8000 teens are a representative sample. Are we to believe that 20% of teens own an Apple Watch, as this survey suggests?

They admit to focusing on middle class to high income households, so they might not be far off in those groups. Definitely not representative of the whole country though.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't understand why Google hasn't been able to replicate the success of iMessage. It can't be /that/ hard to figure out if the person on the other side is using an Android with a compatible Messaging app version and then switch over to an internet-handled chat.

Signal does it just fine - I can only assume that Google is distracted or just doesn't care.

Google talk/hangouts chat still works and does this. Although you are also correct in that case as Google is distracted and doesn't care about Google talk.

And of course fragmentation-- Even if Talk, Signal, Whatsapp and Telegram all support discovery and upgrade, the network effects (or lack of them) kills it in practice.

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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post #2

Sort of makes sense. Android is generally a mess and hasn't really added much of value over the last 4 years. Whereas iOS has had huge yearly updates with actual features. Plus, iMessage is a huge draw. Android has what, 5 messaging apps?

You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

Then why is iOS not generally successful outside US?

Re: Survey: 83% of US teens have an iPhone, Android 9%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making a huge assumption that the young mainstream picked iOS over Android was because of function over form. You can't discount that their products are very fashionable (Apple markets well, they look great, everyone else has one).

1) Discount someone from making an opinion based on an assumption. 2) Then in the next sentence. Make an opinion based on an assumption.

It's not just an assumption that Apple has a strong fashion /brand appeal ...
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