r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

Post by nitrogen » Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 6:13 AM UTC

darkpuma wrote: post #115

Bahamut wrote: post #112

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IRC’s problem for deep conversations is that conversations in a chat medium are more ephemeral and that the shorter is better, not unlike Twitter, a format that exemplifies why shorter conversations do not give a great medium for longer/deeper conversations. With forums, posts aren’t generally deleted except by maybe an admin if someone has been violating rules, and due to the permanence, people generally spend more…

With forums you often get a topic that has 500 posts, 480 of which are pure "me too / works for me" noise. Those 500 posts are split into 50 pages of 10 posts each, and page one has the oldest posts. The post with the answer is on page 46 and the pages after that are just 30-40 comments thanking whoever came up with the answer. So if you jump straight to the end then start working backwards, you're looking at maybe 1…

Post by dredmorbius » Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 6:23 AM UTC

0815test wrote: post #6

propter_hoc wrote: post #3

There are two problems that you will have to deal with: - auto-discovery and growth through r/all - no longer will you have people popping in because you made it to Reddit's front page - loss of the great number of current subscribers who (before) can go to their reddit homepage and see your top posts automatically, but (now) would have to go to a totally new website to see your posts. I subscribe to about 40 subredd…

They could solve both issues by federating with Mastodon instead. No, they wouldn't be on Reddit specifically, but they'd be interacting with a fairly sizeable userbase nonetheless.

Post by blueboo » Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 7:20 AM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #93

oooshha wrote: post #34

They will rapidly find that 90% of their traffic continues to exist within the subreddit, therefore anyone wanting a good thread will post it there rather than on the website, and the website will rapidly atrophy and be abandoned.

While this may be true ( some currently successful sites are spin-offs from other sites ), often there is an orbiting behavior. If the option is to successfully monetize a portion of the flow vs nothing, it may turn out to be a net positive for the subreddit admins.

Post by michaelt » Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 7:40 AM UTC

chx wrote: post #92

darkpuma wrote: post #77

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In my experience 4chan has more attention seeking behavior than IRC (inline images facilitate it moreso than nicks), and on IRC users tend to be more friendly and aware of each other's humanity.

> and on IRC users tend to be more friendly and aware of each other's humanity. I have been on IRC since 1993 but this is news to me.

Post by progval » Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 7:51 AM UTC

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #70

darkpuma wrote: post #68

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Even the traditional PHP forum has all kinds of senseless 'flare' on each post. Post counts, signup dates, eye catching signatures, etc. A large portion of the screen space on your typical forum is still dedicated to attention seeking behavior. IRC is better. There is very little on screen besides the discussion itself. IRC nicks can be used to grab attention, but there are only a few characters to work with so usual…

Let's make a web-browser-accessible persistent IRC with threads and no scores?