CMV: every single post in this subreddit and others like it (unpopular opinions, am I the asshole, etc) are all 99% fake and useless wastes of space.
r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How it appears to me is that people have beliefs that they realize are either unpopular or controversial, and so they use the subreddit to learn what they "should" believe or at least a rationalization for ignoring their true beliefs. A large portion of Reddit in general (especially the front page and popular subreddits) is people making up stories/opinions/content created specifically to illicit as many replies an…
Even the traditional PHP forum has all kinds of senseless 'flare' on each post. Post counts, signup dates, eye catching signatures, etc. A large portion of the screen space on your typical forum is still dedicated to attention seeking behavior. IRC is better. There is very little on screen besides the discussion itself. IRC nicks can be used to grab attention, but there are only a few characters to work with so usual…
IRC’s problem for deep conversations is that conversations in a chat medium are more ephemeral and that the shorter is better, not unlike Twitter, a format that exemplifies why shorter conversations do not give a great medium for longer/deeper conversations.
With forums, posts aren’t generally deleted except by maybe an admin if someone has been violating rules, and due to the permanence, people generally spend more time thinking what what they post.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
But legally that's a huge can of worms. Reddit would shut them down instantly. And not necessarily by suing, Reddit could save itself some trouble and simply delete the subreddit.
Reddit doesn't really care what their subreddits are used for. If they did then they would just delete the numerous hate/death/gore/revengeporn/etc. subs that have persisted for years.
They did delete those subreddits.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even the traditional PHP forum has all kinds of senseless 'flare' on each post. Post counts, signup dates, eye catching signatures, etc. A large portion of the screen space on your typical forum is still dedicated to attention seeking behavior. IRC is better. There is very little on screen besides the discussion itself. IRC nicks can be used to grab attention, but there are only a few characters to work with so usual…
And 4chan theoretically is better still, because the anonymity means posters are not rewarded at all for their contributions. Even the same poster, posting twice in the thread is not identifiable on most boards, allowing the discussion to be the primary focus. On the other hand, the culture of most *chans is to be abusive and confrontational, so who knows if it is any better.
4chan style threads with account names might actually be better. You can have really good discussions in imageboards (in the smaller boards) because you don't have a bunch of non-participants butting in with their upvotes and downvotes.
Even Metafilter with their very low key favorites "voting system" gives rise to a contest for getting the most favorites.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even the traditional PHP forum has all kinds of senseless 'flare' on each post. Post counts, signup dates, eye catching signatures, etc. A large portion of the screen space on your typical forum is still dedicated to attention seeking behavior. IRC is better. There is very little on screen besides the discussion itself. IRC nicks can be used to grab attention, but there are only a few characters to work with so usual…
IRC’s problem for deep conversations is that conversations in a chat medium are more ephemeral and that the shorter is better, not unlike Twitter, a format that exemplifies why shorter conversations do not give a great medium for longer/deeper conversations. With forums, posts aren’t generally deleted except by maybe an admin if someone has been violating rules, and due to the permanence, people generally spend more…
With forums you often get a topic that has 500 posts, 480 of which are pure "me too / works for me" noise. Those 500 posts are split into 50 pages of 10 posts each, and page one has the oldest posts. The post with the answer is on page 46 and the pages after that are just 30-40 comments thanking whoever came up with the answer. So if you jump straight to the end then start working backwards, you're looking at maybe 10 or so page loads before you actually find the answer you're looking for.
Some forums aren't shit, but all of those cookie cutter PHP forums all seem to be shit.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
And 4chan theoretically is better still, because the anonymity means posters are not rewarded at all for their contributions. Even the same poster, posting twice in the thread is not identifiable on most boards, allowing the discussion to be the primary focus. On the other hand, the culture of most *chans is to be abusive and confrontational, so who knows if it is any better.
4chan style threads with account names might actually be better. You can have really good discussions in imageboards (in the smaller boards) because you don't have a bunch of non-participants butting in with their upvotes and downvotes. Even Metafilter with their very low key favorites "voting system" gives rise to a contest for getting the most favorites.
It's not popular on 4chan, but there are other smaller imageboards on which it's popular to use usernames (tripcodes in their parlance.) I can't say I'm a big fan.
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That's for team communication, not the same niche that reddit/Hacker News fill.
Doesn't Discord fill the special interest group chat niche?
Chat, yes.
I wouldn't call HackerNews just a chat. It's articles, then some chat in the comments. That wouldn't work well with Discord I don't think? The main goal of HackerNews (for me) is to load it up, scroll, consume posts from the day, contribute/collaborate/ask questions/ etc. Discord is more about being engaged in the conversation as it is happening
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#118Is there a decentralized version of Reddit that allows you to own your subreddit? I recently got burned where a sub I created was taken from me without explanation or warning and when I reached out to the admins, it fell on deaf ears. The idea that you have no ownership over your subreddit is bearable until you get burned and realize how crazy it is. Same thing goes for YouTube.
There is, Aether. ( https://getaether.net ) Funnily enough, it also implements some of the stuff mentioned here, like public visibility of moderation log so the users can see what mods are doing, and with which justification. (Disclosure: I’m the creator - prior HN discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18370208 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19161171 )
This seems really cool. Checking it out! Though, your logo reminds me of https://studyroomf.fandom.com/wiki/Greendale_Flag
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#119Is there a decentralized version of Reddit that allows you to own your subreddit? I recently got burned where a sub I created was taken from me without explanation or warning and when I reached out to the admins, it fell on deaf ears. The idea that you have no ownership over your subreddit is bearable until you get burned and realize how crazy it is. Same thing goes for YouTube.
That's a principle reason I'm preemptively moving from Reddit despite other strengths of the platform.
There are othr issues.
See:
https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/8rq08y/i_wont_...
https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/20yhxc/reddit_...
https://old.reddit.com/r/plexodus/comments/acg9zf/alternativ...
Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com
#120Is there a decentralized version of Reddit that allows you to own your subreddit? I recently got burned where a sub I created was taken from me without explanation or warning and when I reached out to the admins, it fell on deaf ears. The idea that you have no ownership over your subreddit is bearable until you get burned and realize how crazy it is. Same thing goes for YouTube.
Can you explain how and why a subreddit gets taken away?
Any moderator who is inactive for 60 days can have their moderated/owned reddits reclaimed.
As an example, Tales by Toxlab (https://old.reddit.com/r/TalesByToxlab) is a subreddit of personal stories by a single person ... who died in 2016. By Reddit's rules, anybody could claim that sub for any purpose.
The xkcd sub was taken over by Holocaust-denying neo-nazis (https://www.dailydot.com/news/xkcd-reddit-moderator-drama/). That was eventually recovered.
I've maintained a sub since five years, and yet haave now ownership in it. For a sub that's merely topical that might be acceptable, but this sub is not.