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Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#102

There are two problems that you will have to deal with: - auto-discovery and growth through r/all - no longer will you have people popping in because you made it to Reddit's front page - loss of the great number of current subscribers who (before) can go to their reddit homepage and see your top posts automatically, but (now) would have to go to a totally new website to see your posts. I subscribe to about 40 subredd…

Hopefully reddit didn't trademark versions of "change my view" like they did with AMA. https://trademarks.justia.com/869/44/ama-86944696.html Update: they didn't, but they did trademark "nosleep."

I'm sorry, they what? How recently was this? I was on r/nosleep's mod team and I don't recall the admins ever mentioning this to us.

(They did reach out to us to try and organize a live, in-person r/nosleep Halloween event, only to eventually ghost us about it. Twice.)

Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#103
post #95

The idea that people’s important opinions can be changed by some sort of silver bullet mega-argument is naive and immature, and frankly a great example of what’s wrong with discourse on the internet. In this light, the fact that CMV has the hubris to think their ‘experiment’ is significant outside reddit is not surprising, but no less laughable.

> The idea that people’s important opinions can be changed by some sort of silver bullet mega-argument is naive and immature, and frankly a great example of what’s wrong with discourse on the internet. Even more naive and immature is the idea that conversations either lead to epiphany or do nothing. Comments are read several orders of magnitude more than they're responded to. You might not change that person's mind r…

This is very important and much of the reason I debate online at all.

Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#104

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Hopefully reddit didn't trademark versions of "change my view" like they did with AMA. https://trademarks.justia.com/869/44/ama-86944696.html Update: they didn't, but they did trademark "nosleep."

I'm sorry, they what ? How recently was this? I was on r/nosleep's mod team and I don't recall the admins ever mentioning this to us. (They did reach out to us to try and organize a live, in-person r/nosleep Halloween event, only to eventually ghost us about it. Twice. )

They filed for it in 2018-08-03:

https://trademarks.justia.com/880/64/nosleep-88064058.html

https://trademarks.justia.com/880/64/r-88064059.html

Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#105
post #95

The idea that people’s important opinions can be changed by some sort of silver bullet mega-argument is naive and immature, and frankly a great example of what’s wrong with discourse on the internet. In this light, the fact that CMV has the hubris to think their ‘experiment’ is significant outside reddit is not surprising, but no less laughable.

> The idea that people’s important opinions can be changed by some sort of silver bullet mega-argument is naive and immature, and frankly a great example of what’s wrong with discourse on the internet. Even more naive and immature is the idea that conversations either lead to epiphany or do nothing. Comments are read several orders of magnitude more than they're responded to. You might not change that person's mind r…

> Even more naive and immature is the idea that conversations either lead to epiphany or do nothing.

Ah yes, where ever did I get that idea when forming my opinion about a site titled change my view, where you literally get a whole separate level of fake internet points for giving people deltas, cough, epiphanies?

Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#106

The idea that people’s important opinions can be changed by some sort of silver bullet mega-argument is naive and immature, and frankly a great example of what’s wrong with discourse on the internet. In this light, the fact that CMV has the hubris to think their ‘experiment’ is significant outside reddit is not surprising, but no less laughable.

Is it about silver bullets, or simply exposing people to the other side? Real life can form echo chambers too.

Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#107

There are two problems that you will have to deal with: - auto-discovery and growth through r/all - no longer will you have people popping in because you made it to Reddit's front page - loss of the great number of current subscribers who (before) can go to their reddit homepage and see your top posts automatically, but (now) would have to go to a totally new website to see your posts. I subscribe to about 40 subredd…

It'd be not-that-difficult, technology wise, to integrate with Reddit, with submissions instead going to changeaview.com instead of reddit.com's comment section.

Do you mean...

"with submissions [ALSO] going to changeaview.com [AND] reddit.com's comment section" ?

If the replies only went to changeaview.com the entire comment section would be blank when browsing via Reddit.

Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#108

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I believe you've described a major chunk of Slack's business model.

That's for team communication, not the same niche that reddit/Hacker News fill.

Doesn't Discord fill the special interest group chat niche?

Re: r/ChangeMyView Is Graduating Reddit: Introducing ChangeAView.com

#110

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> How it appears to me is that people have beliefs that they realize are either unpopular or controversial, and so they use the subreddit to learn what they "should" believe or at least a rationalization for ignoring their true beliefs. A large portion of Reddit in general (especially the front page and popular subreddits) is people making up stories/opinions/content created specifically to illicit as many replies an…

Even the traditional PHP forum has all kinds of senseless 'flare' on each post. Post counts, signup dates, eye catching signatures, etc. A large portion of the screen space on your typical forum is still dedicated to attention seeking behavior. IRC is better. There is very little on screen besides the discussion itself. IRC nicks can be used to grab attention, but there are only a few characters to work with so usual…

This conversation reads like an xkcd strip. "Reddit style threads are the best." "Forums are ideal." "IRC is better." Half expecting this to progress to ARPANET or written letters.
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