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I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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Anybody else get an immediately negative visceral reaction from this? If I'm understanding this correctly, the aim is to manipulate our sense of shame/guilt to boost productivity. After sitting with the feeling for a bit, here are some ideas that come to mind: 1. Maybe we should ask why we feel shame/guilt in the first place. Is it "normal" to feel this? If it isn't we should not rely on it for our happiness (or prod…

It reeks of "scientific management", a scrupuleless way of exploiting the slaves^H^H^H^H^H^H employees.

Ruthless con named Frederick Taylor looks for a way to make himself a ton of money by "consulting" on improving worker productivity.

"How did Taylor arrive at forty-seven and a half tons for Bethlehem Steel? He chose twelve “large, powerful Hungarians,” observed them for an hour, and calculated that, at the rate they were working, they were loading twenty-four tons of pig iron per man per day. Then he handpicked ten men and dared them to load sixteen and a half tons as fast as they could. They managed to do it in fourteen minutes; this yields a rate of seventy-one tons per man per ten-hour day. Taylor inexplicably rounded up the number to seventy-five. To get to forty-seven and a half, he reduced seventy-five by about forty per cent, claiming that this represented a work-to-rest ratio of the “law of heavy laboring.” Workers who protested the new standards were fired. Only one—the best approximation of an actual Schmidt was a man named Henry Noll—loaded anything close to forty-seven and a half tons in a single day, a rate that was, in any case, not sustainable. After providing two years of consulting services, Taylor billed the company a hundred thousand dollars (which works out to something like two and a half million dollars today), and then he was fired."

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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Tangentially related: is there any sort of dashboard service that would let me create a dashboard showing things like:

* email inbox count (differentiated by email inbox)

* unmoderated comment queue on website

* Facebook unread message count. Similar ones for other social media inboxes

* and maybe some custom metrics or ones triggered by a spreadsheet or todoist or something

I think this would be immensely useful for my own purposes, in seeing where I wasn’t on top of things. But also useful for sharing with someone else and being accountable. Would allow analysis too, such as eliminating a certain inbox entirely, or delegating some sections, etc

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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Legends say that long ago outside of the bubble where people working constantly monitoring each others and there even was people who's position was literally supervisors.

This is called "office". Somehow absolute peak of my procrastination happened in those human filled dedicated work places with supervision, from bosses, peers and subordinates.

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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post #19

Anybody else get an immediately negative visceral reaction from this? If I'm understanding this correctly, the aim is to manipulate our sense of shame/guilt to boost productivity. After sitting with the feeling for a bit, here are some ideas that come to mind: 1. Maybe we should ask why we feel shame/guilt in the first place. Is it "normal" to feel this? If it isn't we should not rely on it for our happiness (or prod…

> For me, guilt/shame is something to be overcome, not used as a tool. Wow, I think I quite strongly disagree. What do you think it exists _for_ ? It is good for society that people have the capacity for guilt and shame. If we did not, I cannot see any other recourse other than fear!

Okay, so shame exists because it is good for a society that is built on shame? I don't mean to be derogatory in anyway, but the fact something is stabilizing doesn't mean it is good. I believe there are better ways to build relationships with others

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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That's cute. But did you consider hiring a stranger from craigslist to slap you everytime you access facebook? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4661940 Or perhaps testing websites... drunk? I love and loath these articles. They are the equivalent of "and you won't believe what this madlad did!!!!" of hackernews.

I thought you were kidding. You weren't!

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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post #24

Legends say that long ago outside of the bubble where people working constantly monitoring each others and there even was people who's position was literally supervisors. This is called "office". Somehow absolute peak of my procrastination happened in those human filled dedicated work places with supervision, from bosses, peers and subordinates.

I was going to say. Go work in an office?

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

#28
post #19

Anybody else get an immediately negative visceral reaction from this? If I'm understanding this correctly, the aim is to manipulate our sense of shame/guilt to boost productivity. After sitting with the feeling for a bit, here are some ideas that come to mind: 1. Maybe we should ask why we feel shame/guilt in the first place. Is it "normal" to feel this? If it isn't we should not rely on it for our happiness (or prod…

> For me, guilt/shame is something to be overcome, not used as a tool. Wow, I think I quite strongly disagree. What do you think it exists _for_ ? It is good for society that people have the capacity for guilt and shame. If we did not, I cannot see any other recourse other than fear!

Love, kindness, empathy, etc. You dont have to build your society as a goad to make people do what you want.

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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Now do that for a month. Or even a week. You may be more productive bc you don't want to be seen as slacking off with someone watching, but maintaining that kind of pace is untenable. Did you ever get stuck and check your email or Facebook just to give your brain a little break? Did you ever sit, unsure of your next move? Or did you do the first thing you thought of, even if it was wrong, so you didn't look like you were wasting time?

Intense productivity with someone looking over your shoulder is great for a day. After a week you'll want to quit. After a month you'll want to kill yourself.

Re: I let a stranger watch me work for a day and I've never been more productive

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The article is just wrong. Social pressure makes you less productive and hampers cognitive health while working.

I can’t believe anyone even feels this is worth discussing or disagreeing. From the mountains of evidence refuting the communication conditions of open plan offices, we know that knowledge workers require privacy to be productive.

The case is closed. This essay is arguing against the tide. Move on.

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