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Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Post by conanbatt »

mikeyouse wrote: post #11

Why again did we decide that it's okay for our President to spend every weekend at his private, unsecured, for-profit clubs? The Secret Service has already said they can't and won't keep a log of all guests to Mar-a-Lago. Can you imagine the number of bugs/listening devices that are already there? Dozens of foreign nationals already work there on H2B visas[1], they have open-air national security crisis response meet…

Its not about having a tight lead every second of every moment on the president.

There are always millions of vectors of attack, its an impossible and fruitless game to evaluate how to break through to a single human being.

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Post by germinalphrase »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #33
mikekchar wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My honest opinion: previous Presidents (mostly) willingly followed the rules. This President thought, "I wonder what would happen to me if I didn't follow the rules". And the answer seems to be "Nothing". If anything's changed, I think it's a kind of "democratisation" of opinion. For example, the Washington Post was essentially able, though investigative reporting, to impeach a President. I don't think the same thing…

someone who can diffuse that chaos and create a clear, powerful and unified message that the average person is going to identify with. I suspect it will be incredibly difficult. When that person does come, I fear they are going to be magnitudes of order more dangerous than Trump.

Why and in what way?

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Post by mikeyouse »

vfulco2 wrote: post #29
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why again did we decide that it's okay for our President to spend every weekend at his private, unsecured, for-profit clubs? We elected him. Presidents get this purview. If this pisses you off, register to vote, volunteer for campaigns and join your local political club.

Same reason other presidents spent unusual time in hawaii which required undue expenses by the taxpayers to accommodate.

You do see the difference from spending time and taxpayer money in your home state and spending time and taxpayer money in your home state at commercial properties you own and that you profit from right?

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Post by Redoubts »

tenaciousDaniel wrote: post #28
empath75 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair to the secret service, trump has put them on a terrible situation making them have to secure that place instead of using camp david like everyone else.

I live less than a mile from Mar-a-lago, and I drive by it all the time. It seems insane to do anything high-security there.

Why is that?

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Post by lurquer »

mikeyouse wrote: post #38
lurquer wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jimmy Carter did not "sell his family's peanut farm." His mother and brother managed it. In fact, ol' Billy Carter got in a bunch of trouble using it as a sort of slush fund when he was hanging out with the Libyans.... but, I suspect that is long before your time.... Nobody sells off nothing merely to take a 4-year gig. At most, they simply let other family members take over the business.

You're right, I had the history wrong -- he put the ownership into blind trust from which his brother was embezzling. In either case, a peanut farm was important enough to avoid impropriety but somehow all these businesses actively putting money into the President's pocket are kosher? What would people have said if all of the sudden the Iranians started buying tons of peanuts exclusively from Carter's farm?

You did have the history wrong.

What's more interesting is WHY you believed 'fake news' about Jimmy Carter selling off his family farm.

I can't think of ANY President who 'sold off' anything. Kennedy certainly didn't.

Neither Bush did. (Indeed, you may wish to compare the frequency of Trump at Mar-a-lago vs. Bush Sr. at Kennebunkport...)

Reagan had Rancho del Cielo -- his several hundred acre ranch at which he spent so much time that it was referred to as the "Western Whitehouse."

Obama went from $0 to a multimillionaire.

The Clintons went from a $0 to several hundred million. (As far as the Clintons... well, if you think the Clinton's didn't benefit from the Clinton Foundation, I guess you've drunk the Kool-Aid... You oughta take some time to see how many millions of dollars in speaking fees, travel, and accommodations the Foundation paid to the three Clintons.)

The Bush's were already incredibly wealthy, but probably quadrupled their net worth through their semi-private 'Carlyle Group' investment fund.

Your animosity towards Trump leads you to attack the one area where he's head and shoulders above the others: he's going to leave office with a lower net worth.

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Post by floatingatoll »

It is inconceivable that the Secret Service permitted the leak of this level of detail to the press. That she was carrying malware makes this an espionage-class event. The intelligence community must be fuming mad that these details weren't sealed.

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Post by hermitdev »

elliekelly wrote: post #13

Reading the article I was immediately concerned the cellphones and/or malware were used as probable cause for her arrest. Four cellphones is definitely excessive but not illegal (at one point I had three for work + a personal) and malware on a USB stick could happen to anyone . From the complaint[1] it looks like she's being charged for knowingly making false statements to gain access to a restricted area and (thankf…

Why did you have 3 cellphones for work? That seems excesive to me. I can understand 1 for work, one for personal - I had this situation for quite a while myself.

I'd prefer to only carry 1 phone, but I won't 'byod' to a company that reserves the right to remotely wipe my personal phone.

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Post by mikeyouse »

lurquer wrote: post #45
mikeyouse wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, I had the history wrong -- he put the ownership into blind trust from which his brother was embezzling. In either case, a peanut farm was important enough to avoid impropriety but somehow all these businesses actively putting money into the President's pocket are kosher? What would people have said if all of the sudden the Iranians started buying tons of peanuts exclusively from Carter's farm?

You did have the history wrong. What's more interesting is WHY you believed 'fake news' about Jimmy Carter selling off his family farm. I can't think of ANY President who 'sold off' anything. Kennedy certainly didn't. Neither Bush did. (Indeed, you may wish to compare the frequency of Trump at Mar-a-lago vs. Bush Sr. at Kennebunkport...) Reagan had Rancho del Cielo -- his several hundred acre ranch at which he spent…

There are all the obvious corruption problems with post-Presidential activities, and obviously it's a huge source of corrupting influence. The Clintons became obscenely wealthy -- but that had nothing to do with their Foundation (speaking as an expert in nonprofit finance).

My only animosity is toward public corruption. The Bushes visiting Kennebunkport was obviously different because other people couldn't pay to access the president at Kennebunkport. The Saudis bought 500 rooms at a hotel that the President personally owns immediately after the inauguration. That's completely different in scale, kind, and timing in terms of the 'normal' corruption and I'm flabbergasted that it doesn't register as such.

Phrased another way:

What's the method to illicitly influence the Bushes at Kennebunkport? How about the method to influence the Obamas after they've left office? You could absolutely make a case about influencing the Clintons since Hillary obviously wanted to run for President. The story to illicitly influence the current President is very straightforward and keeps happening in the open. Regardless of what happened in the past, shouldn't we try to stop it when it's happening now?

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Post by aaron695 »

This report is garbage.

You can obviously use a pool without swimming, this is also more common in Asian culture where the ability to swim is less.

Maleware on a USB, WTF, she was going to what?? Hack the Planet? They found it straight up, so no zero days either.

Asians often have multiple phones for different providers and businesses, 4 is maybe usual, but when overseas perhaps not. I have many friends who travel with multiple passports and some don't like leaving them in the hotel.

The event was real and organised by a Charles and she had an invite!

We've all snuck into resorts before and without thinking twice, is it because she did it while Asian? - (but had an invite)

What exactly is the smoking gun here?

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