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Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair to the secret service, trump has put them on a terrible situation making them have to secure that place instead of using camp david like everyone else.

and is charging them money to do so.

> and is charging them money to do so.

You mean, charging us, the taxpayers, to do so.

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

#32
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The NYT article either leaves out that the woman was carrying Republic of China passports, or is erroneously conflating RoC and PRC.

it says "passaports". Do people from RoC must now have a PRC passport too after the recent occupation? I have no idea how passports work for people under the Taiwan political mess.

My Taiwanese friend has two passports. She uses the PRC one for the mainland and ROC in the West. Basically just use whatever passport causes less trouble. It's a fairly simple arrangement

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is more -- Why this President? It would never been acceptable at any point in prior history. Jimmy Carter famously had to sell his family's peanut farm to avoid any perception of a conflict of interest. In the same election that Trump won, it was a huge campaign issue that people seeking influence donated to The Clinton Foundation -- a Foundation that the Clinton's did not, and could not financially benefit…

My honest opinion: previous Presidents (mostly) willingly followed the rules. This President thought, "I wonder what would happen to me if I didn't follow the rules". And the answer seems to be "Nothing". If anything's changed, I think it's a kind of "democratisation" of opinion. For example, the Washington Post was essentially able, though investigative reporting, to impeach a President. I don't think the same thing…

someone who can diffuse that chaos and create a clear, powerful and unified message that the average person is going to identify with. I suspect it will be incredibly difficult.

When that person does come, I fear they are going to be magnitudes of order more dangerous than Trump.

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why again did we decide that it's okay for our President to spend every weekend at his private, unsecured, for-profit clubs? We elected him. Presidents get this purview. If this pisses you off, register to vote, volunteer for campaigns and join your local political club.

My point is more -- Why this President? It would never been acceptable at any point in prior history. Jimmy Carter famously had to sell his family's peanut farm to avoid any perception of a conflict of interest. In the same election that Trump won, it was a huge campaign issue that people seeking influence donated to The Clinton Foundation -- a Foundation that the Clinton's did not, and could not financially benefit…

Jimmy Carter did not "sell his family's peanut farm."

His mother and brother managed it. In fact, ol' Billy Carter got in a bunch of trouble using it as a sort of slush fund when he was hanging out with the Libyans.... but, I suspect that is long before your time....

Nobody sells off nothing merely to take a 4-year gig. At most, they simply let other family members take over the business.

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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post #25

This will turn out to have been a mentally ill person. I seriously doubt a real intelligence operative would show up for work with multiple passports, a pile of cell phones and a cover story that hinges upon a non-existent event being scheduled.

You can't just go around calling everyone mentally ill because you don't like the idea that this person really was a spy.

There are lots of people who want to spy, not just the CPC. If it helps you sleep at night, blame a company spy from TenCent instead.

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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The 4 cell phones thing and her sketchy story is suspicious. But anyone could have malware on a USB stick. Especially from China. That said this sounds way too sloppy for state espionage. Maybe it’s private? Or they are recruiting way too many people and let some bad ones in.

It does sound comical. Maybe the chinese are getting desperate after the huawei exec got arrested? Or maybe it's just a "setup" to apply pressure on china before the next round of trade talks. Usually espionage/intel related events are kept secret. When it's publicized, it's usually for political/trade/etc reasons.

Just like how china magically found canadian "spies" in their country right after canada arrested one of their executives and used their propaganda apparatus to put pressure on canada.

If this was real serious espionage, I doubt the secret service, cia, etc would release the info so quickly to the media. Does this mean the trade negotiations are not going well? Does it mean it is going well? It'll be interesting to read about the inner workings of the trade negotiations a few decades from now and what historians make of this time. Things like can only be understood in hindsight and never in the moment because we, no more than the chinese people, get to see what is really happening behind the scenes. Everyone gets the massaged and curated "news".

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair to the secret service, trump has put them on a terrible situation making them have to secure that place instead of using camp david like everyone else.

I live less than a mile from Mar-a-lago, and I drive by it all the time. It seems insane to do anything high-security there.

"Seems insane."

That's the administration in a nutshell.

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

#38
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is more -- Why this President? It would never been acceptable at any point in prior history. Jimmy Carter famously had to sell his family's peanut farm to avoid any perception of a conflict of interest. In the same election that Trump won, it was a huge campaign issue that people seeking influence donated to The Clinton Foundation -- a Foundation that the Clinton's did not, and could not financially benefit…

Jimmy Carter did not "sell his family's peanut farm." His mother and brother managed it. In fact, ol' Billy Carter got in a bunch of trouble using it as a sort of slush fund when he was hanging out with the Libyans.... but, I suspect that is long before your time.... Nobody sells off nothing merely to take a 4-year gig. At most, they simply let other family members take over the business.

You're right, I had the history wrong -- he put the ownership into blind trust from which his brother was embezzling. In either case, a peanut farm was important enough to avoid impropriety but somehow all these businesses actively putting money into the President's pocket are kosher?

What would people have said if all of the sudden the Iranians started buying tons of peanuts exclusively from Carter's farm?

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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post #2

The 4 cell phones thing and her sketchy story is suspicious. But anyone could have malware on a USB stick. Especially from China. That said this sounds way too sloppy for state espionage. Maybe it’s private? Or they are recruiting way too many people and let some bad ones in.

Russia has openly attacked the US, UK, EU with their online efforts.

These days you don't need to be convert.

Re: Woman from China Carrying Malware Arrested After Entering Mar-a-Lago

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Comparing this to myself, I often carry two cell phones, I assume my USB drives are not infected, but have no idea if they are and if they are I wouldn't be able to tell based on what I understand of infections that live in the firmware, and when I was much younger, in my teens and early 20s, I definitely snuck into quite a few nice swimming pools at hotels and clubs, along with every one of my peers! I also snuck into a major party presidential convention once because why not, and it was educational and interesting and democratic to do so anyway.

I don't have two passports, but I've heard a lot of people do.

So this all sounds dodgy when they report on it like that, but there's also a chance she's just someone going for a swim. In which case though trespassing charges and false statements charges are still legit.

Of course there's more to the case than this, she changed her story multiple times and eventually said that a person unknown to her had asked her to fly from Shanghai to Florida in order to speak to Trump. I think it would be a waste of time to try to get to the bottom of what she was up to, best way to handle this is get a quick conviction and permanently deport her back.

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