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996.icu, Chinese programmers against working overtime gathering on GitHub

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Re: 996.icu, Chinese programmers against working overtime gathering on GitHub

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Post by surge »

maimeowmeow wrote: post #5

I wonder why developers think they need special protections that other workers do not have. It is not uncommon for waiters to work 12 hour days, with 1 day off for wages far lower.

It's not uncommon for them to work one 12 hour shift one or two times a week, and usually done voluntarily for extra pay.

The shit they're talking about violates labor laws in the US and is done 6 days a week. No one is physically capable of that for a non-desk job for very long so if anything, that's not true because its simply unsustainable.

Re: 996.icu, Chinese programmers against working overtime gathering on GitHub

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Post by lima »

maimeowmeow wrote: post #5

I wonder why developers think they need special protections that other workers do not have. It is not uncommon for waiters to work 12 hour days, with 1 day off for wages far lower.

Come to Europe, where it's illegal for waiters to work 12 hour days.

Re: 996.icu, Chinese programmers against working overtime gathering on GitHub

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Post by calimac »

surge wrote: post #21
maimeowmeow wrote: post #5

I wonder why developers think they need special protections that other workers do not have. It is not uncommon for waiters to work 12 hour days, with 1 day off for wages far lower.

It's not uncommon for them to work one 12 hour shift one or two times a week, and usually done voluntarily for extra pay. The shit they're talking about violates labor laws in the US and is done 6 days a week. No one is physically capable of that for a non-desk job for very long so if anything, that's not true because its simply unsustainable.

Does anyone keep track of the Amazon warehouse working conditions. They keep an ambulance outside of my local prime warehouse. It's common in summer and Christmas to have half a dozen medical incidents a week.

Re: 996.icu, Chinese programmers against working overtime gathering on GitHub

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Post by raxxorrax »

maimeowmeow wrote: post #5

I wonder why developers think they need special protections that other workers do not have. It is not uncommon for waiters to work 12 hour days, with 1 day off for wages far lower.

Not uncommon, but still crazy. And there is not much justification to do so. No developer can regularly work for 12 hours.

5 hours should be our target. Less pretending to work would be so much more efficient.

I am not willing to further escalate inferiority complexes with others.

Re: 996.icu, Chinese programmers against working overtime gathering on GitHub

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Post by timwaagh »

maimeowmeow wrote: post #5

I wonder why developers think they need special protections that other workers do not have. It is not uncommon for waiters to work 12 hour days, with 1 day off for wages far lower.

from what i understand, they just want the overtime pay they are legally entitled to according to their interpretation of PRC law.

Re: 996.icu, Chinese programmers against working overtime gathering on GitHub

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Post by stuffedBelly »

guard0g wrote: post #27

When I was in investment banking, it was more like 727 (7am-2am, 7 days/week).

I work in finance and all I can say is it's not sustainable and not definitely something anyone should be proud of. Literally no one benefits from such long work hour, not even the company itself.
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