Nice to see Mozilla doing something against this. I've found those unsolicited notifications to be annoying in 95% of the cases.
Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
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Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#232"Since notifications can be sent after you leave a site"
What? How?
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#233> Most prompts are dismissed, while almost 19% of prompts caused users to leave the site immediately after being confronted with them. Guilty. I've started taking requests for permission to send push notifications as a strong signal that I've accidentally clicked on clickbait.
What's the logic for publishers, here? "If we add this feature, we will immediately bounce 19% of our traffic." Why would you do that? Or is this a scam thing where that 19% just proved they aren't suckers, so you don't want to waste your time on them?
Today there is very little trust in search engines on the part of web sites so if they get a visitor today they want very badly to get a line on that person so they can keep them coming back.
That 19% of people are not monolithic. Probably some people understand what is going on, other people just realize it just another distraction, it is like having a homeless person try to sell you a macbook in San Francisco. A quality of life thing.
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#234It's completely rude to send a browser notification prompt without prior warning. The solution to this is html notification prompts that only trigger the browser notification prompt when the user clicks on them. They aren't as intrusive. That's what I use on my wordpress site.
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#235First thing I do on a new Firefox install (among other things) is disable all new requests for Alerts. I've never wanted a website to send me alerts, and I've never met anyone who wanted them. Who is the audience for this?
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#236OK, changing tools is painful, but I think they're gonna actually get me to switch to firefox.
It took me a bit to adjust from Chrome, but I haven't looked back.
Any advice to a potential switcher from Chrome? Anything you did to make FF more Chrome-like in any ways or whatever?
As a web dev, I'm scared of having to learn the new dev tools (I'm gonna use the same primary browser for web dev as for everyday, realistically). Do you use the dev tools, did you find it easy to switch there?
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#237It would have been better if the notification API never existed and RSS had become the de facto standard for subscribing. The only good use for a notification API is urgent information, almost nothing on the internet qualifies. Giving everyone the power ruined the whole thing.
Yeah the only thing I think it's actually useful for is chat apps -- and for the ones I use frequently I ended up downloading their electron app anyway
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#238Does even know what the push notifications do? I'm too scared to ask for them.
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#239> Most prompts are dismissed, while almost 19% of prompts caused users to leave the site immediately after being confronted with them. Guilty. I've started taking requests for permission to send push notifications as a strong signal that I've accidentally clicked on clickbait.
Most of the internet is clickbait these days.
Except for ClickHole! All that is 20,000% valid, valuable content!! cough
Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox
#240It would have been better if the notification API never existed and RSS had become the de facto standard for subscribing. The only good use for a notification API is urgent information, almost nothing on the internet qualifies. Giving everyone the power ruined the whole thing.
Yeah the only thing I think it's actually useful for is chat apps -- and for the ones I use frequently I ended up downloading their electron app anyway
It's also nice for Google Calendar notifications.