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* is the wild card character so veg*n "matches" both "vegan" and "vegetarian." It's a short-hand way to say "vegetarian and/or vegan."
It's not very obvious that it's supposed to stand for more than one letter. Is it less confusing to do this way than to say "vegetarian" since that includes vegans?
Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods
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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods
#582"Tastes like a real Whopper" is a backhanded complement if I ever heard one. One of the worst burgers you can buy.
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As a vegetarian and former meat eater, I've had an "impossible taco" a couple of times. I don't want or crave meat, but they tasted very good. However, the texture totally weirded me out and both times I checked more than once to make sure they didn't accidentally serve me meat. I would wager a meat eater wouldn't know the difference if they were accidentally served these vegetarian tacos instead of beef.
I eat meat and occasionally eat impossible burgers to reduce my meat consumption, and you can definitely tell. Just not as good.
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#584Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's an Impossible Burger, and left undersaid is that it's a fast-food burger. Since it's right up front in the headline that it's Burger King,I don't think the fast food part is “undersaid”. > I just don't see the point, vs a high-protein high-fat patty made of bean or soy protein isolate that tastes good in it own non-fake-fast-good-meat-burger way. If you don't see the point of fast food, you can, I hope, at lea…
Like you point out, it's maddening people are missing this all over. This isn't for vegetarians to eat something like meat again, it's for meat eaters to carry on not giving a shit about what they eat. And it can't be cheaper than a real meat burger, because consumers will kill its adoption by calling it the "cheap" product. Regardless of merit or quality.
(Source: the recent book Clean Meat.)
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"They've taken the "veggie burger" from "actually I've changed my mind, I'm not hungry after all" to reluctant acceptance." This sounds like small-minded prejudice. Of all of the ingredients with which you can make veggie burgers, you would refuse all of them? Keep in mind that you can make burgers out of virtually anything.
Someone who repeatedly tries veggie burgers is prejudiced against the concept? Or simply hasn’t found one they like? Per the HN guidelines: > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
I simply doubt that any such statement is justified. In my experience vegetarianism evokes a great deal of cultural small-mindedness. That is simply an empirical observation. So it was my best guess - given that the statement was so absurd, for the three reasons above - for what was going on here. You'll notice I didn't say that they were small-minded, I said that their statement read as such.
As for the guidelines. I think you should generally assume good faith. But if you see someone express a common prejudice it can also be helpful to call that out. I don't believe in the 'principle of charity' as its stated there. I think you should engage accurately with the arguments that your interlocutor presents, not with an alternative version of it.
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#586The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…
Let me do you a favor: The world is going to end tomorrow!
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#587Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone who repeatedly tries veggie burgers is prejudiced against the concept? Or simply hasn’t found one they like? Per the HN guidelines: > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.
Note three things about the statement. It's not said in the first-person about their subjective preference but tout court. They are not speaking about particular veggie burgers, or the veggie burgers they happened to have tried, but about 'veggie burgers'. And their judgement is categorical, not one of degree. I simply doubt that any such statement is justified. In my experience vegetarianism evokes a great deal of c…
Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods
#588The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…
If it's been 18 years since you had a burger, I'm not sure you're the expert on what's closest to meat.
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Some of the biggest and best studies on nutrition told us that processed food is not very good for us : Study links heavily processed foods to risk of earlier death https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/11/study-links-...
Regular burgers are heavily processed. They don't grow on burger trees or in burger coops.
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#590Earlier quoted context omitted.
Note three things about the statement. It's not said in the first-person about their subjective preference but tout court. They are not speaking about particular veggie burgers, or the veggie burgers they happened to have tried, but about 'veggie burgers'. And their judgement is categorical, not one of degree. I simply doubt that any such statement is justified. In my experience vegetarianism evokes a great deal of c…
Nothing they said indicated prejudice against vegetarians, but rather expressed a personal dislike for a kind of food.
I don't mean prejudice in the sense of being prejudiced against minority groups. I mean it in the literal sense of the word, i.e. an unfounded prejudgement.