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Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

#411

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It's only near you when you're at home though. This works around the world.

wouldn't be that difficult to write a script that checks geoip and launches a VPS in the region closest to your current devices public address. You could even create an iOS shortcut to allow you to do it from your iPhone

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9736710

(Not implying anything, just providing a discussion point.)

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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We thought about the trust aspect of it (we have gone through numerous VPN related threads here on news.yc and r/privacy and this has been one of the top concerns). Here's how we plan to convince folks (in our own naive way) we mean business (do serveral or all among): 1. OpenSource vpn server and client, with ability to Cloud-SSH to the server and view what's running. 2. Hands-off, one-click, spin up VPN servers on…

Sounds like something HN readers will like, but which also would be completely commercially unviable.

Filtering, Adblocking, VPNs are commercially viable. More of a B2B play than B2C though

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

#414

There goes me and my co-founder's plan of disrupting the Mobile VPN market. Or may be, we still have a chance? Anywho, congratulations Cloudflare! I long held an opinion that the VPN market was ripe for disruption when I looked at privacy policy of some of the top players. Having analysed the market, I find that its defragmented with no clear run-away winner. I hope you're able to make a headway with all the interest…

Email me: matthewatcloudflaredotcom. Perhaps you and your cofounder can help build your vision within Cloudflare? I'd love to chat.

Seeing this raises my already high opinion of Cloudflare!

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

#415

There goes me and my co-founder's plan of disrupting the Mobile VPN market. Or may be, we still have a chance? Anywho, congratulations Cloudflare! I long held an opinion that the VPN market was ripe for disruption when I looked at privacy policy of some of the top players. Having analysed the market, I find that its defragmented with no clear run-away winner. I hope you're able to make a headway with all the interest…

Have you already started on this concept? Myself and our team are working on some of the ideas you listed for an upcoming app (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/guardian-firewall/id13637963...). It would be great to chat further, if you have interest in working on this concept (e-mail is will.strafach@guardianapp.com).

Designing a reasonably secure and reliable mobile VPN has been a very difficult challenge to get right. If you look at existing mobile VPNs through a tool such as Charles Proxy or Burp, you will see that none of them really appear to be designed very well. There are many unsolved technical problems with managing and scaling such services, likely avoided by existing providers due to how easy the issues are to mask. That said, Cloudflare’s cautious approach with Warp gives me some confidenxe that they really are trying to do this right.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

#416
Would Warp have an option to use native (iOS/Android) VPN clients, instead of installing their app? Like, providing warp.mobileconfig configuration profile?

I'm using native iOS/MacOS IKEv2 client with selected few VPN providers, and pretty happy with not having 3rd party app on my mobiles/desktops.

OK. TFA says "We built Warp around WireGuard". That kills native client support.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

#418

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> So basically Cloudflare created an app with Cloudflare branding and set up a Wireguard server for everyone. Not just one -- servers in 175 (and growing) locations spread around the world, and the app will always use the closest one to you. That's arguably a lot more important that what protocol it uses, and is not something you could easily DIY.

I mean, for DIY you only need one because you're only one user . Pick a VPS host with a data center near you... done.

DIY has benefit of trust, but disadvantage of unique to you IP address. With 3rd party VPN you share the IP with many, much like hiding in the crowd.

I was lucky to find small paid VPN provider, that doesn't do marketing, pay for referral and stuff, and I'm sticking to it.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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My biggest concern with any VPN is: do I trust you? I’ve been reluctant to sign up with any of these VPN services that seem to be advertising everywhere nowadays because I don’t know what they’ll do with my internet traffic. The CloudFlare VPN is interesting to me because they’re a large, established company with a good reputation, so I trust them more than TunnelBear or ExpressVPN or PIA or whoever’s sponsoring YouT…

We thought about the trust aspect of it (we have gone through numerous VPN related threads here on news.yc and r/privacy and this has been one of the top concerns). Here's how we plan to convince folks (in our own naive way) we mean business (do serveral or all among): 1. OpenSource vpn server and client, with ability to Cloud-SSH to the server and view what's running. 2. Hands-off, one-click, spin up VPN servers on…

Sounds a bit like what Google / Alphabet / Jigsaw are already doing with Outline, but I still think there’s major opportunity there for a transparent and decentralized one-click service. Especially when you add in #4.

For some reason, Outline is still mega-targeted at journalists and activists when it could be so much more — it’s been an absolute joy to use so far, and being powered by Shadowsocks certainly doesn’t hurt.

https://getoutline.org/en/home

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

#420

There goes me and my co-founder's plan of disrupting the Mobile VPN market. Or may be, we still have a chance? Anywho, congratulations Cloudflare! I long held an opinion that the VPN market was ripe for disruption when I looked at privacy policy of some of the top players. Having analysed the market, I find that its defragmented with no clear run-away winner. I hope you're able to make a headway with all the interest…

Email me: matthewatcloudflaredotcom. Perhaps you and your cofounder can help build your vision within Cloudflare? I'd love to chat.

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