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I wonder how well this works when using using wifi on and accessing a corporate intranet. I discovered https://myhrportal didn't work when I pinned my DNS to 8.8.8.8.
I have been supporting FSF, ACLU, etc. for years, but the practical considerations that prompted me to be a bit more trusting are Cloud Search in GSuite, Cloudflare offering HTTPS to help get the web more secure, and a deep appreciation for having Firefox available (containers are so easy to use and make me feel more secure in my use of the web).
> 1. We don't write user-identifiable log data to disk; That's great... but you do log user-identifiable info? How I read that is "we log things that can identify you but just keep it in memory for X amount of time". Myself and other privacy-minded folks would like to know more details there, especially as this is a freemium service.
>A VPN for People Who Don’t Know What V.P.N. Stands For I don't think their target audience includes those people (privacy minded folks.)
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We do not currently plan to allow third-party WireGuard clients to connect to the service.
Asked differently, do you plan on explicitly disallowing/banning it if people unofficially ran the reference implementation against Warp? It would be nice to know the policy there. For those of us that do know what a VPN is, and are okay not having access to support, getting things to work without a desktop app would be nice.
It's important to appreciate that we have literally millions of users for the 1.1.1.1 App and we are rolling out a free VPN for them. That is a huge support and network burden that we have to deal with to make that experience work well. Yes, we use WireGuard under the hood (and have open sourced our Rust code), but the additional cost of supporting people connecting from their WireGuard clients means that we don't want to support that _today_. Please bear with us while we get through a massive roll out.
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It it just me or does it sound wrong to call wireguard, the kernel module, third party software in this context? That's literally the reference implementation.
It is wrong. Warp is the third-party implementation. It would be amazing if it could be made to work from standard wireguard, but I suppose there's a chance that if desktop versions arrive, you'll be able to extract the keys. The only thing stopping that would be if Cloudflare broke the protocol.
I just signed up. cloudflare is on the short list of Internet companies that I trust (with the usual small bit of doubt and skepticism!). With just a few reservations, I also trust G Suite, Firefox, and a few hosting companies I do business with. I have been supporting FSF, ACLU, etc. for years, but the practical considerations that prompted me to be a bit more trusting are Cloud Search in GSuite, Cloudflare offering…
It's the fast path to replacing the decentralized internet with a few proprietary CDNs. I'm much more excited about those projects that actually try to fix the raised issues:
Unencrypted connections -> TLS / Letsencrypt
TCP sucks on mobile/roaming devices -> QUIC & HTTP/3
While this might improve user experience for some, I don't see the greater value in a VPN solution like this. It's the fast path to replacing the decentralized internet with a few proprietary CDNs. I'm much more excited about those projects that actually try to fix the raised issues: Unencrypted connections -> TLS / Letsencrypt TCP sucks on mobile/roaming devices -> QUIC & HTTP/3
I just signed up. cloudflare is on the short list of Internet companies that I trust (with the usual small bit of doubt and skepticism!). With just a few reservations, I also trust G Suite, Firefox, and a few hosting companies I do business with. I have been supporting FSF, ACLU, etc. for years, but the practical considerations that prompted me to be a bit more trusting are Cloud Search in GSuite, Cloudflare offering…
maybe you've forgot Cloudbleed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudbleed Thanks for downvoting.
I don't trust cloudflare to not make mistakes (like Cloudbleed). I don't trust myself to not make mistakes. I don't think there is anyone I trust not to make mistakes. It's just not a reasonable criteria.