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Warp – Mobile VPN

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Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tor is different. We don't put up CAPTCHAs by default for Tor. We totally changed how we handle Tor years ago. But, because Tor provides anonymity, there is _a lot_ of abuse through it. A lot.

I read the privacy sections in your blog post, and it feels like WARP offers anonymity, maybe not from CF, but perhaps from everyone else.

Tone note: I'm posting technically, not value-judging.

I would say "anonymity" is a fairly strong term for what's being offered here. It's going to hide your source IP, and if you don't mind CF seeing your unencrypted content (and the fact it's unencrypted kinda means that from a technical perspective, you already don't care), it may improve the amount of the connection to unencrypted content that is encrypted (and thereby block the "coffee shop" attack fairly well), but that's all. They're not going to actively strip the bajillions of other active tracking techniques being used nowadays. Your phone will still track location. Facebook will still track you on your phone every bit as much as they did before. etc.

This is part of a complicated set of measures you may be able to take to attain anonymity, but not even remotely the full package.

Again, this is a technical posting to ensure that people understand what this is and is not. This is not a criticism of the service for not being something it isn't or anything like that.

Less technically and more value-judgy (though still not much), note the title: "Introducing Warp: Fixing Mobile Internet Performance and Security" Performance was highlighted first, security second. This seems to me to be a reasonable and accurate reflection of the nature of the service.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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Warp+ with Argo sounds like it has the potential to really improve the internet experience on ISPs that have poor routes. Will warp be available on desktop machines at some point?

Yes! We're working on desktop clients as well but they'll be available a bit later than the mobile launches, as the most performance benefit is available when you're on a cell network.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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Support for Linux would be nice.

Are there any linux phones? I thought everybody was either on OS or some flavor of Android (....plus some WindowsPhone holdouts, I suppose). Android is vaguely based on the linux kernal, but nobody would really count that.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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I've downloaded 1.1.1.1 fresh from Google Play just now, but I don't see any "get in line" option. Buried somewhere, or Google still staggering out the latest version of the app?

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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post #6

Support for Linux would be nice.

Are there any linux phones? I thought everybody was either on OS or some flavor of Android (....plus some WindowsPhone holdouts, I suppose). Android is vaguely based on the linux kernal, but nobody would really count that.

A wireguard (proper) android client has been on my phone for months. Cloudflare seemed to have talked very little to the upstream at all here. Jason commented on this here: https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-March/00404...

It'd be interesting to see a response from Cloudflare (unless there is one an I've missed it)

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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TLDR Cloudflare released a privacy focused DNS resolver at 1.1.1.1, then an app for iOS and Android that set up VPN profiles to use those DNS revolvers.

Now the apps will be upgraded with Warp, an option to set up a full data VPN over WireGuard, terminating at any worldwide PoP.

This should give you super low latency to your VPN server, and also open up the possibility of local caching smarts on the device.

Basic service is free, premium service coming that’ll put you on the CF backbone for all your traffic, should take you off the public internet and speed things up.

Desktop versions coming as well.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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I currently use DNS66 for ad blocking on android without root. Is there a way to do something similar while using this app?

Alternatively, I have a Xperia XA1 running a June 5, 2017 security patch. It's been my intent for a long time now to figure out how to get root without unlocking the boot loader the sony approved way (which makes the camera less functional). Anyone have any pointers on easy to exploit privilege escalations that should exist on my phone?

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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post #11
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tor is different. We don't put up CAPTCHAs by default for Tor. We totally changed how we handle Tor years ago. But, because Tor provides anonymity, there is _a lot_ of abuse through it. A lot.

I read the privacy sections in your blog post, and it feels like WARP offers anonymity, maybe not from CF, but perhaps from everyone else.

Note that the blog post does not say "anonymity" or any similar word. We aren't trying to hide you completely from everyone (use Tor for that). We are securing and accelerating the connection between your device and Cloudflare. This is meant to deal with the reliability, performance and security challenges of using mobile Internet around the world. And we have strong privacy guarantees.

Re: Warp – Mobile VPN

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post #24

I've downloaded 1.1.1.1 fresh from Google Play just now, but I don't see any "get in line" option. Buried somewhere, or Google still staggering out the latest version of the app?

It's coming. We have released but there's some latency in the various app stores around the world.
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