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Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by runciblespoon »

“I believe we need a more active role for governments and regulators. By updating the rules for the Internet, we can preserve what’s best about it — the freedom for people to express themselves and for entrepreneurs to build new things — while also protecting society from broader harms.”

My irony just exploded. My solution is to say goodby to your Facebook “friends”, switch off the computer and go outside and socialize with real people. Yea, I know you can't unfriend people when they annoy you, but that's a small price to engage in a real social life.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by humanrebar »

BluSyn wrote: post #22

Finally. I've been predicting this is exactly what FB would do eventually: ASK for regulation. Facebook could do all these things in isolation, but generally speaking this could be really bad for long-term revenue. Essentially Facebook is stuck between a rock here; big moves will satisfy their user base, but annoy their large investors. On the other hand, doing nothing will harm users in the long run, but probably th…

I think you need to account for the regulatory capture problem. I don't see how more regulations could be bad for Facebook as long as it's not broken up or banned outright.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by hellllllllooo »

aestetix wrote: post #40

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

Yeah it's nonsense. Having a separation between my work and personal life is a completely valid reason for having multiple online identities. There are plenty of other valid reasons. Obviously Mark would love us to be constrained to single username so that he can create a more complete profile for selling to advertisers. Data from a real name user is more valuable for correlation with other data sources. This "philosophy" is driven by the bottom line and nothing to do with "integrity".

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by [deleted] »

bitxbit wrote: post #67
aestetix wrote: post #40

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

By now it's pretty clear, to me at least, that Zuckerberg simply doesn't get it. He could have fixed the issues for over a decade. And even in 2019, after all the evidence of mismanagement and public distrust, he still refuses to relinquish any control of the company. This is a tone-deaf opinion piece. I'd argue as far back as 2010 that indiscriminately selling user data was a bad idea especially when you are the sol…

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by cc2zu3 »

bitxbit wrote: post #67
aestetix wrote: post #40

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

By now it's pretty clear, to me at least, that Zuckerberg simply doesn't get it. He could have fixed the issues for over a decade. And even in 2019, after all the evidence of mismanagement and public distrust, he still refuses to relinquish any control of the company. This is a tone-deaf opinion piece. I'd argue as far back as 2010 that indiscriminately selling user data was a bad idea especially when you are the sol…

If someone wants easy karma, post that Upton Sinclair quote.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by Angostura »

marcrosoft wrote: post #17

The four points being: * harmful content * election integrity * privacy * data portability I think Zuckerberg's intent is to dilute the real issue (privacy) with these other three points. FB has a bad record when it comes to privacy and they are actively taking measures against it. For example, they lobby against privacy laws [1]. They create shadow profiles and they make it difficult or impossible to delete your acc…

> Election integrity is a media hysteria. Nobody is forcing anyone to vote in a particular way.

I think transparency is a real issue - knowing who is funding those adverts and campaigns and putting controls on campaign spending is important.

Sure, no-one is forcing you to vote a particular way. But if they can control what you see, here and know about an issue, they don't need to force you - do they?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by reaperducer »

Barrin92 wrote: post #50
aestetix wrote: post #40

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

I agree with Mark as far as social networks are concerned. The 'social' part of the name is important, and social relationships cannot function without some sort of stake. Having a unified identity guarantees that people are held accountable for what they say, it reduces fraud, trolling, and it means people have 'skin in the game' when participating in a social environment, it's the basis for trust.

Having a unified identity guarantees that people are held accountable for what they say, it reduces fraud, trolling, and it means people have 'skin in the game' when participating in a social environment, it's the basis for trust.

Awesome. So you're going to change your HN username to your real name and put your address and phone number in your "about" section?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by joe_the_user »

aestetix wrote: post #40

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

Yes, the "privacy" regulation Zuckerberg describes in this article have no relation to an individual keeping their identity private from an online service - they merely involve strictures on companies' use of the knowledge they gain about their clients. It is taken as a given that the companies will have this information. Which is to say it requires customers to trust companies rather than actually have any control.
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