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What did Google+ get right?

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Re: What did Google+ get right?

#41

Aren't the circles really aimed at the spammer mentality? (e.g. I am broadcasting)

For me, circles seemed to do the opposite. Instead of blasting an update to every person on my friends list (coworkers, family, friends) I could limit the exposure to a subset. This seemed like a better way to control spam in the ~3 posts I made on Google+.

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Re: What did Google+ get right?

#43
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It's only now that I use Twitter on a daily basis that I realize the problem of having a single feed for your private life, work, hobbies, etc. It just doesn't work and is one of the main reasons why I unfollow people. I think the underlying functionality of circles and collections are a must but maybe they can be implemented in a better and easier to use way.

I think of the underlying problem as "the metadata delusion." We programmers look at difficulties users have dealing with large volumes of data and think, aha! I can solve this by giving them ways to add metadata to those data, so it can be more easily browsed/filtered/faceted/whatever. (We think that because programmers have an analytical cast of mind, which we then extrapolate from -- this would be useful for me ,…

I really don't like to think that users are too stupid for good solutions.

I think it is a way to avoid admitting that we fail at ux innso many ways and in even more spectacular ways when we try to be smart and remove options.

Re: What did Google+ get right?

#44
Each of the individual features of Google+ sounded great on paper. I never used it so I can't comment on the implementation.

What killed it for me is that it came from Google. They'd already showed they're terrible at customer service, and terrible at service longevity/continuity, and it just seems creepy for the same company to want to do my web browser, my phone, my search engine, my social media, my web hosting, my advertising, my payments, my shared documents (editing and storage), etc.

It seems like, to Google engineers, "fully integrated with 173 other Google services" is a feature. To me, it's a red flag. If they want me to use any more services from them, they need to come up with some way to wall it off so I'm assured that any potential issues with X don't affect my usage of Y.

Re: What did Google+ get right?

#45
post #30

Circles Peoples relationships and interests tend to be grouped by their circles. Whatsapp and Facebook groups seem to understand this which is why they are soo sticky.

I was so excited for the circles so I could group content to an audience. I coerced a significant number of people to join Google+.

I was let down when I found out that when I posted something, it would send people in that circle an e-mail notification.

I stopped posting as soon as I saw that. I'd much rather have people check on my interests at their leisure than having my content forced on them.

Re: What did Google+ get right?

#46
post #19

The question is, what problem did Google+ solve?

There was actually a brief period of time, right when google+ started, where everyone would just start a Google Hangout (which was released at the same time), and people were just chilling in the Hangouts.

That experience was cool. It felt like modern social square, to just have open video chats, than anyone would just join.

Re: What did Google+ get right?

#47
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I have family, military friends and recruiters and I don't want those conversations crossing over. With facebook, I have no idea what will leak across various groups of friends.

I 100% agree, however I really didn't like manually curating those circles ... I share a relatively diverse set of things/interests, so would have loved to leave it up to the other party which facet of my "feed" they could have subscribed to. This isn't my use case, but a perfect example is people with kids. They're gonna share pictures and stuff of their kids, but as I'm sure you've seen, tons of people make comment…

Any system that requires manual curating of these things by the user is doomed to fail. I'm probably the demographic most prone to try features, so I'll try to make some circles, but I have to admit failure.

Even whatever you called it in livejournal where you had specific sharing groups of friends - that was a burden to maintain. I eventually lost track of my organization. It just wasn't worth it.

Re: What did Google+ get right?

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think of the underlying problem as "the metadata delusion." We programmers look at difficulties users have dealing with large volumes of data and think, aha! I can solve this by giving them ways to add metadata to those data, so it can be more easily browsed/filtered/faceted/whatever. (We think that because programmers have an analytical cast of mind, which we then extrapolate from -- this would be useful for me ,…

I really don't like to think that users are too stupid for good solutions. I think it is a way to avoid admitting that we fail at ux innso many ways and in even more spectacular ways when we try to be smart and remove options.

My point wasn't that general users are stupid -- far from it! It's that they think about these things differently than programmers do, and so when we build solutions that are optimized for the way we think, we do them a disservice.

In other words, dividing the world into "smart people" (e.g. us) and "dumb people" (e.g. everybody who isn't us) isn't productive. Realizing that there are people out there who think about these things differently than we do, and taking the time to learn how they think and build solutions that respect that, can be.

Re: What did Google+ get right?

#49
post #30

Circles Peoples relationships and interests tend to be grouped by their circles. Whatsapp and Facebook groups seem to understand this which is why they are soo sticky.

I was thinking exactly this whilst unfollowing people on Twitter who weren't feeding my hopeless obsession with Brexit. Hashtags are too ephemeral and gamed.

Re: What did Google+ get right?

#50
The reason I used Facebook (emphasis on the past tense here) and not Google+ is for one reason only:

I could not post something on my wife's "wall/timeline" in Google+.

This is different than "tagging" someone in that it goes on their page, not yours so their friends can see it.

I closed it and never used it again.

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