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Soldering in the RAM amounts to apple resorting to extortion. Where else are you gonna get this RAM other than paying the toll troll hundreds of dollars over what it should cost solely because apple greedily removed alternatives.

The RAM is quite frankly easily upgradeable on the iMac.

I hear some models they have a nice little door but some models involve a lot more frankensteining. At least on macbook's its been impossible for a while.

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This sounds interesting - do you have a description of the hardware you used to hand?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/jake541/saved/#view=ZnVr6h As of today, the prices are higher than what I paid. If you're going to buy, monitor /r/buildapcsales on Reddit and buy your parts when they go on sale. I bought my stuff over a period of a couple weeks and saved substantial money. Samsung SSD prices fluctuate by 10s of dollars. Other SSD manufacturers such as Intel and WD offer steep discounts at times. The RX…

Thanks!

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But Apple does not support macOS for most Macs that long. E.g. last year's Mojave does not support iMacs from before 2012. You may be lucky and they might support the iMac Pro a bit longer, but it is unlikely that you'll get an up-to-date secure OS for ten years. If they transition to ARM at some point, the lifetimes of Intel Macs may even be shorter.

To be fair, they support their computers for a long time and seemingly provide update as long as possible. My Late 2009 iMac still received 2017's High Sierra update.

and the reason it won't run Mohave is not caprice but rather a desire to simplify system graphics by moving it to the Metal API along with Metal's using hardware features not yet introduced in late 2009.

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Searching for "macos hosting", here are the first seven links I found: XCLOUD - macOS Cloud Hosting - https://xcloud.me XCLOUD is an enterprise-class IaaS for macOS. It is perfect for developers and companies that need to run one or hundreds of dedicated macOS VMs in the Cloud. In fact, each XCLOUD instance is a dedicated virtual machine running macOS version of your choice . MacStadium | Apple Mac Infrastructure & P…

I'm aware of such services; however, I said "high-performance server". Where do I get a 72-thread server I can build OSX software on? Nowhere. More importantly, who has a scalable cloud where I can spin up as many such servers of varying sizes as I need?

You haven’t investigated these services. MacStadium will help you do this if for some reason their virtual Mac cloud product doesn’t work for you.

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I'm aware of such services; however, I said "high-performance server". Where do I get a 72-thread server I can build OSX software on? Nowhere. More importantly, who has a scalable cloud where I can spin up as many such servers of varying sizes as I need?

You haven’t investigated these services. MacStadium will help you do this if for some reason their virtual Mac cloud product doesn’t work for you.

I did investigate all of those services before I replied. I see that MacStadium will manage Mac Pro systems, but those don't have nearly the processing power I'd want. As I said, where can I get a 36-core 72-thread Mac? Nowhere, at least not legally.

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You haven’t investigated these services. MacStadium will help you do this if for some reason their virtual Mac cloud product doesn’t work for you.

I did investigate all of those services before I replied. I see that MacStadium will manage Mac Pro systems, but those don't have nearly the processing power I'd want. As I said, where can I get a 36-core 72-thread Mac? Nowhere, at least not legally.

Why doesn’t their private cloud service give you that? It doesn’t seem reasonable to insist you get all your computing power from one physical machine if another solution is available.

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I did investigate all of those services before I replied. I see that MacStadium will manage Mac Pro systems, but those don't have nearly the processing power I'd want. As I said, where can I get a 36-core 72-thread Mac? Nowhere, at least not legally.

Why doesn’t their private cloud service give you that? It doesn’t seem reasonable to insist you get all your computing power from one physical machine if another solution is available.

Because I can't do make -j72 (or the Ninja equivalent) across multiple machines.

There are multiple reasons to want a single large machine rather than distributed systems. I can get that for a Linux or Windows machine, quite easily, from hundreds of vendors.

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This sounds interesting - do you have a description of the hardware you used to hand?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/jake541/saved/#view=ZnVr6h As of today, the prices are higher than what I paid. If you're going to buy, monitor /r/buildapcsales on Reddit and buy your parts when they go on sale. I bought my stuff over a period of a couple weeks and saved substantial money. Samsung SSD prices fluctuate by 10s of dollars. Other SSD manufacturers such as Intel and WD offer steep discounts at times. The RX…

Just want to say thanks for sharing all this.

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Why doesn’t their private cloud service give you that? It doesn’t seem reasonable to insist you get all your computing power from one physical machine if another solution is available.

Because I can't do make -j72 (or the Ninja equivalent) across multiple machines. There are multiple reasons to want a single large machine rather than distributed systems. I can get that for a Linux or Windows machine, quite easily, from hundreds of vendors.

You’re right. I thought they could abstract away the network parallelization but they can’t.
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