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How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, police looking for a crime when there is none is not something to celebrate. Your second point is spot on, though.

I think they were saying that it's a cause to celebrate that police in Japan are bored, not the things they do to fill that boredom.

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make. I could have expressed it clearer.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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I think there are two things here: first is that Japan is so safe that police is actively looking for cases to pursue. I remember reading of police putting (as a trap) a case of beer in an open car at a shopping plaza, monitoring it for a week before finally nabbing a retiree who opened a door (whether to "steal" the beer or just to investigate). In and of itself such safely is, IMO, something to celebrate. The secon…

Another thing is the lack of understanding, or almost disdain of technicality when it comes to IT among politicians and high ranked officials. The tendency is probably common among politicians everywhere, but Japan is particularly bad as the majority of these committees members have only legal backgrounds and don't even know what HTML is (and their contempt of studying them).

Give me exemple of foreign politician that know HTML please (besides Taiwan ones). We got got a lot of funding for IT related stuff here from the government.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Sadder yet is that modern browsers let you disable these sort of dialogs. I know Firefox does it, I assume Chrome does as well. Wondering what the browser landscape looks like in Japan if it was serious enough to mandate police force?

For anyone who wants to try if their browser blocks it:

javascript:for(;;){alert("am%20I%20bloc%20yet?");}

Just copy that into the URL field of your browser (In a new tab, because it will block whatever site you do this from (duh))

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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"This page seemed to have been around since a few years ago, and it appears that there were quite a number of people who posted each other this URL on some particular internet forums. It is still not clear why only these three were arrested by the Hyogo Prefectural Police under such circumstance. They may not have any specific reasons for that." Maybe the police only wanted to make an example of those three people an…

This decision seems to have been deeply irrational and poorly informed in the first place, so I don't see much of a point in looking for logic in their actions.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don’t have to assume that Japan is safe. We have statistics for that.

Unless you are a woman. I was sadly not surprised when I heard from a friend that she had been groped as a preteen in a department store. Worse yet, none of the rest of us were surprised to hear it. It’s normal and unreported. Likewise, there are some claims I’ve read that the suicide rate is high because of murders treated as suicide by police (who have their own quotas) and age inflation due to relatives who don’t…

That. If you speak with Japanese women (in Japanese) they don’t feel safe at all and they have reason for that. There is a lot of perverts here. One day my girlfriend called because someone opened the door of her appartement. Another friend had a guy pretend to be the gas guy to enter their appartement just to retract when he saw the size of his shoes in the corridor. A female friend (foreigner, well endowed)... groped at the Shibuya crossing, etc. Even male friend have bad stories about guy trying to taxi them somewhere.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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I'd like to shed some light on this(and other Japanese tendencies) from a different perspective. Human societies can be seen as humonculus to the humans that make them up in many ways. One such way is that societies tend to reflect the broad strokes of Freudian tendencies that the citizens tend towards. The culture reflects the society. Not hard to understand. In the case of Japan, it is clear after consideration tha…

Freudian psychology has been mostly debunked and is not considered a valid tool for analyzing societies.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Coinhive case IS harmful and they are not that innocent - if "posting Coinhive on their web sites" means "mining use visitors' browsers".

That really depends; if it's communicated to the user that, by having the website open, they are mining cryptocurrency for the website owner as a sort of "payment" for being able to use the site, then that's totally ok. If they weren't informed, then it's still just a minor issue, at least compared to large-scale tracking of users that many other sites do.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Coinhive case IS harmful and they are not that innocent - if "posting Coinhive on their web sites" means "mining use visitors' browsers".

You're confusing morality with legality. The morality regarding coinhive is a controversial topic, but its legality should still be defined under the rule of law. The Japanese police is acting on dubious legal grounds in arresting coinhive users given the lack of legal precedence and the vague wording of the law. Regardless of our opinions on coinhive, it is still worrying to see the police make arrests for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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post #16

I think there are two things here: first is that Japan is so safe that police is actively looking for cases to pursue. I remember reading of police putting (as a trap) a case of beer in an open car at a shopping plaza, monitoring it for a week before finally nabbing a retiree who opened a door (whether to "steal" the beer or just to investigate). In and of itself such safely is, IMO, something to celebrate. The secon…

The 99% figure is a common misconception. Prosecutors in Japan are underfunded, so they only try to convict rock solid cases, among other factors. This Wikipedia entry seems to flagrantly defy wiki rules but seems more informative for it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_J...

isn't prosecuting a prank orthogonal to your argument of only prosecuting rock solid cases?

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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post #46

I'd like to shed some light on this(and other Japanese tendencies) from a different perspective. Human societies can be seen as humonculus to the humans that make them up in many ways. One such way is that societies tend to reflect the broad strokes of Freudian tendencies that the citizens tend towards. The culture reflects the society. Not hard to understand. In the case of Japan, it is clear after consideration tha…

Freudian psychology has been mostly debunked and is not considered a valid tool for analyzing societies.

Ah, then use the Berne Transactional Analysis model. I provided that terminology as well.

Do you have any problems with viewing the world through the `Parent, Adult, Child` simplified lens?

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