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How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by dcbadacd »

cranej wrote: post #22
dcbadacd wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say ads are harmful as well, don't see people fighting those this much.

“People does not fight harmful ads for now“ does not mean coinhive should be added to web sites without users’ consensus. And It’s more harmful than ads as users know explicitly whether there are ads on web sites and have a choice to not visit them anymore. But silently mining without warning users of that is worse.

But ads are okay to add without users' consensus? Not really.

I wouldn't say mining was explicitly without warning, computer fans usually spun up.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by lozenge »

jbm wrote: post #23
shhehebehdh wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don’t have to assume that Japan is safe. We have statistics for that.

Unless you are a woman. I was sadly not surprised when I heard from a friend that she had been groped as a preteen in a department store. Worse yet, none of the rest of us were surprised to hear it. It’s normal and unreported. Likewise, there are some claims I’ve read that the suicide rate is high because of murders treated as suicide by police (who have their own quotas) and age inflation due to relatives who don’t…

Is the punishment for groping on trains still apologising to the victim on a train platform?

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by [deleted] »

euske wrote: post #30
ptero wrote: post #16

I think there are two things here: first is that Japan is so safe that police is actively looking for cases to pursue. I remember reading of police putting (as a trap) a case of beer in an open car at a shopping plaza, monitoring it for a week before finally nabbing a retiree who opened a door (whether to "steal" the beer or just to investigate). In and of itself such safely is, IMO, something to celebrate. The secon…

Another thing is the lack of understanding, or almost disdain of technicality when it comes to IT among politicians and high ranked officials. The tendency is probably common among politicians everywhere, but Japan is particularly bad as the majority of these committees members have only legal backgrounds and don't even know what HTML is (and their contempt of studying them).

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Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by Tsubasachan »

Lambdanaut wrote: post #28

I'd like to shed some light on this(and other Japanese tendencies) from a different perspective. Human societies can be seen as humonculus to the humans that make them up in many ways. One such way is that societies tend to reflect the broad strokes of Freudian tendencies that the citizens tend towards. The culture reflects the society. Not hard to understand. In the case of Japan, it is clear after consideration tha…

Yeah I live in a country were we try to balance individual freedom with a social Borg collective. Because neither Japan OR the US are very appealing.

Its bloody hard. Trying to put a square inside a triangle like those children puzzles.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by b_tterc_p »

ptero wrote: post #16

I think there are two things here: first is that Japan is so safe that police is actively looking for cases to pursue. I remember reading of police putting (as a trap) a case of beer in an open car at a shopping plaza, monitoring it for a week before finally nabbing a retiree who opened a door (whether to "steal" the beer or just to investigate). In and of itself such safely is, IMO, something to celebrate. The secon…

The 99% figure is a common misconception. Prosecutors in Japan are underfunded, so they only try to convict rock solid cases, among other factors.

This Wikipedia entry seems to flagrantly defy wiki rules but seems more informative for it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_J...

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by b_tterc_p »

0_gravitas wrote: post #4
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, yeah. There's no way a programmer can account for user intent, that is, each and every single user's intent. I can't say how many times I've clicked something thinking it would do something else only to be disappointed.

I clicked on the button and my dick did not get 6 inches bigger as advertised; please arrest this man

Works just fine for me? What browser are you using?

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by b_tterc_p »

scottishcow wrote: post #6

Just to remind you all, this is coming from a country whose cybersecurity minister claims to have "never touched a PC in his life". https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46222026

That same minister is launching a cyber attack on unsecured IoT devices to get the country to strengthen its stuff. He seems far the from the worst guy for the job.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/tel...

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by imtringued »

cranej wrote: post #11

Coinhive case IS harmful and they are not that innocent - if "posting Coinhive on their web sites" means "mining use visitors' browsers".

The police started acting long after the website owner removed Coinhive from his website.

Re: How Japanese Police Turned Cyber Prank into Arresting Cases

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Post by andreareina »

aburd wrote: post #27
ptero wrote: post #16

I think there are two things here: first is that Japan is so safe that police is actively looking for cases to pursue. I remember reading of police putting (as a trap) a case of beer in an open car at a shopping plaza, monitoring it for a week before finally nabbing a retiree who opened a door (whether to "steal" the beer or just to investigate). In and of itself such safely is, IMO, something to celebrate. The secon…

No, police looking for a crime when there is none is not something to celebrate. Your second point is spot on, though.

I think they were saying that it's a cause to celebrate that police in Japan are bored, not the things they do to fill that boredom.
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