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In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by mises »

sneak wrote: post #23
nsillik wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The inalienable right to play Fortnite. All governments restrict certain behaviors: alcohol (dui, public intoication, etc.), drugs(prohibition, prescription only), gambling. Now, it’s fair to say that doing those, and doing them as much or as long as you like, is an inalienable right-like “expression”-is absolutely a position you can take. But all countries seem to agree that we shouldn’t do certain things, at leas…

No, the inalienable right to publish creative works without the government forcing you to add or remove content or features. If they didn’t protect this in the United States, your iPhone would have an FBI backdoor in it as of the last iOS update. It does not, because there are some people in the US who still believe that the government does not have the right to serve as your product manager or editorial board.

They tried it anyway.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by ssnistfajen »

thoughtstheseus wrote: post #29
ssnistfajen wrote: post #20

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You must have not heard of parental control features. Is limiting a child's screen time also "human rights abuse"?

No, we are not talking about parents. Unless you are implying that people should receive their social, cultural, etc. values from a government?

Way to escalate an issue about teenagers playing a video game.

If you've been through a public education system you've already received social and cultural values from a government.

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by kgwgk »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #15
nsillik wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The inalienable right to play Fortnite. All governments restrict certain behaviors: alcohol (dui, public intoication, etc.), drugs(prohibition, prescription only), gambling. Now, it’s fair to say that doing those, and doing them as much or as long as you like, is an inalienable right-like “expression”-is absolutely a position you can take. But all countries seem to agree that we shouldn’t do certain things, at leas…

Ancient Greece had a couple major festivals of Dionysus in which it was perfectly acceptable behavior to get roaring drunk and stagger crazily through the public square. You weren't expected to do this, but you could. (One or two times a year.) It makes me curious whether having the rare festival allowing the activity might make it easier to get everyone not to do it the rest of the year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by dang »

ryan93 wrote: post #24
ssnistfajen wrote: post #20

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You must have not heard of parental control features. Is limiting a child's screen time also "human rights abuse"?

Moron

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Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by huehehue »

How can anyone here endorse something like this in any way? I get that video game addiction is a real problem, but constant surveillance is not a healthy alternative. Some people are cool with this because "kids need to be studying or playing outside, not playing video games!". But this is just an instance where your interests happen to shallowly align with the government's.

By the time we get to an issue you take offense with, there's already going to be a precedent of censorship and restricted activity and you'll be screwed. To be clear, I can't stand microtransaction-packed cash grabs and I don't game at all, but I also don't believe it's the government's place to say how we should be spending out free time.

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by a1369209993 »

ssnistfajen wrote: post #20
sneak wrote: post #4

Just because a removal of freedom seems to be beneficial doesn’t make this any less of a human rights abuse. The right to free expression is inherent in all people, and it is unconscionable that the Chinese government censors expression in this way.

You must have not heard of parental control features. Is limiting a child's screen time also "human rights abuse"?

Yes. The fact that a large number of people abuse their children this way doesn't make it acceptable any more than it made beating them with belts acceptable back when that was common.

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by throwaway663 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #15
nsillik wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The inalienable right to play Fortnite. All governments restrict certain behaviors: alcohol (dui, public intoication, etc.), drugs(prohibition, prescription only), gambling. Now, it’s fair to say that doing those, and doing them as much or as long as you like, is an inalienable right-like “expression”-is absolutely a position you can take. But all countries seem to agree that we shouldn’t do certain things, at leas…

Ancient Greece had a couple major festivals of Dionysus in which it was perfectly acceptable behavior to get roaring drunk and stagger crazily through the public square. You weren't expected to do this, but you could. (One or two times a year.) It makes me curious whether having the rare festival allowing the activity might make it easier to get everyone not to do it the rest of the year.

The Purge?

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Post by thatoneuser »

huehehue wrote: post #35

How can anyone here endorse something like this in any way? I get that video game addiction is a real problem, but constant surveillance is not a healthy alternative. Some people are cool with this because "kids need to be studying or playing outside, not playing video games!". But this is just an instance where your interests happen to shallowly align with the government's. By the time we get to an issue you take of…

How can people endorse? Pretty easy - cognitive dissonance, projection, vicarious tithing, etc. People are really complacent about other people suffering things they themselves would hate. We're asshole in that way.
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