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In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) we seem to normalize violating the rights of minors.

The rights that were violated were those of the publisher, by government censorship. They have the right to free expression, and Chinese officials will imprison them by force if they use it.

Are you saying that companies have a right to distribute their work, for profit, unlimitedly? Regardless of how dangerous, addictive, financially ruinous, or socially destructive it is?

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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Just because a removal of freedom seems to be beneficial doesn’t make this any less of a human rights abuse. The right to free expression is inherent in all people, and it is unconscionable that the Chinese government censors expression in this way.

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) we seem to normalize violating the rights of minors.

Why should minors have the same rights as adults?

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) we seem to normalize violating the rights of minors.

The rights that were violated were those of the publisher, by government censorship. They have the right to free expression, and Chinese officials will imprison them by force if they use it.

First of all, the publishers were able to release the original game, but what was limited was their audience. If there were “rights” violated, it would be the minors’.

Secondly, restricting minors from certain acts is very common in most countries because they aren’t old enough to know better.

It is very common in western countries to forbid stores to sell alcohol and tobacco to minors. Would you argue that the store owner’s rights were violated?

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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post #4

Just because a removal of freedom seems to be beneficial doesn’t make this any less of a human rights abuse. The right to free expression is inherent in all people, and it is unconscionable that the Chinese government censors expression in this way.

> The inalienable right to play Fortnite. All governments restrict certain behaviors: alcohol (dui, public intoication, etc.), drugs(prohibition, prescription only), gambling. Now, it’s fair to say that doing those, and doing them as much or as long as you like, is an inalienable right-like “expression”-is absolutely a position you can take. But all countries seem to agree that we shouldn’t do certain things, at leas…

Ancient Greece had a couple major festivals of Dionysus in which it was perfectly acceptable behavior to get roaring drunk and stagger crazily through the public square. You weren't expected to do this, but you could. (One or two times a year.)

It makes me curious whether having the rare festival allowing the activity might make it easier to get everyone not to do it the rest of the year.

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The inalienable right to play Fortnite. All governments restrict certain behaviors: alcohol (dui, public intoication, etc.), drugs(prohibition, prescription only), gambling. Now, it’s fair to say that doing those, and doing them as much or as long as you like, is an inalienable right-like “expression”-is absolutely a position you can take. But all countries seem to agree that we shouldn’t do certain things, at leas…

Ancient Greece had a couple major festivals of Dionysus in which it was perfectly acceptable behavior to get roaring drunk and stagger crazily through the public square. You weren't expected to do this, but you could. (One or two times a year.) It makes me curious whether having the rare festival allowing the activity might make it easier to get everyone not to do it the rest of the year.

Also, see: Purim [0]

0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rights that were violated were those of the publisher, by government censorship. They have the right to free expression, and Chinese officials will imprison them by force if they use it.

First of all, the publishers were able to release the original game, but what was limited was their audience. If there were “rights” violated, it would be the minors’. Secondly, restricting minors from certain acts is very common in most countries because they aren’t old enough to know better. It is very common in western countries to forbid stores to sell alcohol and tobacco to minors. Would you argue that the store…

No, they were required to institute cooldown timers for minors to be allowed to publish it. The same goes for Blizzard. Their original, unmodified game, as published in the rest of the world, is censored in China by media censorship laws.

Selling alcohol and tobacco aren’t expression, authoring and publishing creative works is. Please do not conflate the two.

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

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It's hard to think about a government's place being to limit things like gaming or viewing of entertainment. Though the intent is probably positive in this instance, it's the place of the parents to be instituting and upholding rules, not the government. It's an incredibly slippery slope.

Re: In China, 'Fortnite' Penalizes Minors for Playing Too Much

#20
post #4

Just because a removal of freedom seems to be beneficial doesn’t make this any less of a human rights abuse. The right to free expression is inherent in all people, and it is unconscionable that the Chinese government censors expression in this way.

You must have not heard of parental control features. Is limiting a child's screen time also "human rights abuse"?
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