The article is hilariously wasteful with words as that thing is of land.
Calling it a giant waste paper basket is wonderfully apt.
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#32Classism works both ways. I can’t fucking stand poor people who have nothing more to hate on rich people about than that they have money. And the converse is true, rich people who think poverty is some moral failing. This article is riddled with, fuck people who have more than me. Ugh, get the fuck over yourself, no matter what social position you may have happened to find yourself in. Not ‘Fuck The Vessel’ just ‘Fuc…
> no matter what social position you may have happened to find yourself in People don't "find themselves" in a social position. It isn't like they wandered into the wrong part of town. People suffering poverty are angry about wealth because it represents something withheld from them by an opaque and unfair system (how opaque and how unfair is the only thing under debate). Rich people who think poverty is a moral fail…
I'm not sure how this contradicts, or even has anything to do with the parent post. It seems like you're reading excessively far into a turn-of-phrase.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> an amount that dwarfs the subsidies offered to Amazon one thing I really love about NYC is how easy it is to deflect attention and get what you want exhibit A: "tech workers" make the same amount in NYC as they do in the Bay Area, they fly completely under the radar and the inequality warriors point fingers at finance instead, serving to highlight the fickle nature of an unorganized protest where the cause/perpetua…
Hudson Yards is way more than a standard tax break bonanza. Tax-free City and state authority bonds were issued to finance it. The Amazon deal was all about NYS politics and the changes in leadership in the state legislature.
Where there is a will there is a way
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#34Classism works both ways. I can’t fucking stand poor people who have nothing more to hate on rich people about than that they have money. And the converse is true, rich people who think poverty is some moral failing. This article is riddled with, fuck people who have more than me. Ugh, get the fuck over yourself, no matter what social position you may have happened to find yourself in. Not ‘Fuck The Vessel’ just ‘Fuc…
> nothing more to hate on rich people about than that they have money
That's not the case here, she is criticizing them for more than just having money.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> no matter what social position you may have happened to find yourself in People don't "find themselves" in a social position. It isn't like they wandered into the wrong part of town. People suffering poverty are angry about wealth because it represents something withheld from them by an opaque and unfair system (how opaque and how unfair is the only thing under debate). Rich people who think poverty is a moral fail…
I'm not sure how this contradicts, or even has anything to do with the parent post. It seems like you're reading excessively far into a turn-of-phrase.
That turn of phrase is the key indicator in the original comment. It means they think of poverty and wealth as unrelated phenomena. Generally it is our most casual statements that say the most about our underlying assumptions.
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#36I mean, I'm not a big fan of Hudson Yards... ...but this piece doesn't seem to make any coherent argument. Nowhere does she explain why she dislikes it aesthetically. She simply seems to dislike that it was designed to be Instagrammable (is that so bad for art/sculpture which is inherently visual?), has some bizarre thoughts on climbing staircases (she's against climbing the Eiffel Tower as well, does she hate exerci…
> Nowhere does she explain why she dislikes it aesthetically.
That's because her criticism does not seem to be primarily aesthetic. There's more to architecture than aesthetics.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> no matter what social position you may have happened to find yourself in People don't "find themselves" in a social position. It isn't like they wandered into the wrong part of town. People suffering poverty are angry about wealth because it represents something withheld from them by an opaque and unfair system (how opaque and how unfair is the only thing under debate). Rich people who think poverty is a moral fail…
I'm not sure how this contradicts, or even has anything to do with the parent post. It seems like you're reading excessively far into a turn-of-phrase.
It is relevant to the parent post because there's legitimate reason for the poor to have animus against the rich, and not vice versa. The parent post is attempting to treat "poor" and "rich" as something like rival sports teams that are on equal footing, because that's required to criticize the poor mad at the rich in the same way you'd criticize the rich mad at the poor.
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#38Classism works both ways. I can’t fucking stand poor people who have nothing more to hate on rich people about than that they have money. And the converse is true, rich people who think poverty is some moral failing. This article is riddled with, fuck people who have more than me. Ugh, get the fuck over yourself, no matter what social position you may have happened to find yourself in. Not ‘Fuck The Vessel’ just ‘Fuc…
Sure, and many rich do say, “I hate the poor.” The difference is that the rich are actually able to fuck over the poor. And, they often blatantly do so.
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#39This article is a perfect encapsulation of our current culture of contempt. It is no longer sufficient, or even possible, to just disagree or have different tastes.
"I'm personally not a big fan of that building's aesthetics, but maybe there are others who do like it."
That would have been a reasonable opinion to hold... instead we have: "Designed by Thomas Heatherwick, one of architecture’s premier grifters... The depth of architectural thinking at work here makes a kiddie-pool seem oceanic"
I hope to God I never have to work with someone like the author.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/opinion/sunday/political-...
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure how this contradicts, or even has anything to do with the parent post. It seems like you're reading excessively far into a turn-of-phrase.
It is relevant to the parent post because there's legitimate reason for the poor to have animus against the rich, and not vice versa. The parent post is attempting to treat "poor" and "rich" as something like rival sports teams that are on equal footing, because that's required to criticize the poor mad at the rich in the same way you'd criticize the rich mad at the poor.
>It is relevant to the parent post because there's legitimate reason for the poor to have animus against the rich, and not vice versa
The parent poster is specifically referring to a specific type of unfounded animus. Namely: having no argument other than "they have more money than me" to justify said animus.