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Post by houndsofnone »

bitpush wrote: post #449
aylmao wrote: post #415

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This is actually something that worries me, long term. There's people who still play 30+ year old games— you can still buy a used NES and play classic Tetris if you wanted. Mario Kart on the Wii still works. Online play is broken though because Nintendo has no interest in running old servers to keep a service in a long discontinued game running. If any games are developed solely for Stadia, will they disappear if the…

I think most things we buy have a life. When I pay $$ to get shoes, I dont expect that to run forever. Sure, it might be nice but I _understand_ it might lose its life after a while. We expect software similarly to run forever, but I think we need to start associating life against it. Now if a shoe only works for a week, I'm not going to buy it. If it works for a year, sure I'll take it.Similarly for a digital good (…

>> When I pay $$ to get shoes, I dont expect that to run forever.

The better analogy is: when you buy a book, do you expect you can read it again in ten years? People who bought 1st pressings of Beatles albums 60 years ago can still play them with their grandkids. I can still play old SNES with my siblings at Christmas. But imagine a 2019 being unplayable in 2029. It's reasonable to be concerned.

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Post by Angostura »

jhall1468 wrote: post #199
Angostura wrote: post #187

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I think if we added them up, probably the majority of Google products have failed, no? It’s unusual.

The failure rate of startups is drastically higher than Google products, so it's only unusual in the sense that they have way more success than the industry as a whole.

Does Google have 145 products and services at the moment? That’s how many it has canned to-date.

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Post by Angostura »

ehsankia wrote: post #202
Angostura wrote: post #187

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I think if we added them up, probably the majority of Google products have failed, no? It’s unusual.

Have you actually added them up? If you really do, and look at it percentage-wise, Google is probably on the lower end.

They have apparently canned 145 products and services.

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Post by smadurange »

mav3rick wrote: post #418
013a wrote: post #395

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There's so much that this will hurt in the gaming industry. Some of my thoughts: 1. As subscription services take over, the upfront revenue game studios see will drop. This is just simple math: Xbox Game Pass costs $10/month, which means its the total cost of a AAA game over 6 months. In a traditional model, many gamers would expect to buy, lets say, 2 AAA games per year. In this new model, I can play as many as I wa…

This is such a parochial and short-sighted view. Let's block new technology because "game studios will die". Businesses need to adapt. And if people still like games that don't rely on microtransactions or multiplayer, studios will make them. There is a place for both. Also, to point 7. guess what billions of people can't afford a console or an expensive PC rig. Yet, in developing countries data is already very cheap…

This isn't new technology. It's just a new product. Actually, it isn't even a new product since others have tried it before.

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Post by LaserToy »

dougmwne wrote: post #360
LaserToy wrote: post #310

Former PSN eng here. So, it will be very interesting to see what is going to happen. I feel we were not very successful with Playstation Now. It requires a lot of money to even start scaling, you need a powerful (read expensive) machine which can be fully utilized by just 1 AAA game. And for any competitive gaming experience - latency is a big one. If you want to play multiplayer as you going to have latency to Googl…

What do you think of Google's controller? Having it bypass the laptop/chromecast and connect directly to wifi seems like it will save some latency, but how much?

My guess, they did it because of the browser. Idea is very good and makes total sense - you don’t have to integrate your controller with every browser, you just stream in it.

Simple and genius.

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Post by smadurange »

ergo14 wrote: post #257
zarriak wrote: post #229

I really don't understand why people here aren't talking about the real underlying principle of this service. Google has captured the education and cheap laptop space with chromebooks. This is the logical extension of that software. Sure they will eventually combine chromeos and android but this is one more step in the direction of everything happening inside of your web browser. The entire reason this is happening i…

Unless I'm mistaken ChromeOS is only used in US schools on a wide scale.

Not common in Singapore. We do use computers in schools. Usually Windows or Macbooks. Same goes for univerties.

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Post by beenBoutIT »

twiceaday wrote: post #186
beenBoutIT wrote: post #146

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I can't answer for OP, but I went with a 2080ti because it's cheaper than purchasing a 2060/2070/2080 now and buying a 2080ti later. If price wasn't an issue I'd have gone with the best possible Titan RTX.

That doesn't make much sense. If you buy a 2070 now in a few years the successor 2170 (or whatever) will be more powerful than the current 2080ti and cheaper. Unless you have unlimited budget I find that buying cheaper cards more often will give you better average performance.

Actually, the 2080ti is around the same price as the 1080ti, if you can find one.
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