"Forget Tesla" is the wrong attitude. We should applaud every win we can get, big or small.
The framing of the article is that oil companies need to be more concerned about the Chinese buses than about Tesla. It's a simple rhetorical device, not a statement that Tesla does not matter.
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#32Then just imagine if shipping tankers became electrified. The world's 6 largest shipping tankers produce more CO2 than all the world's personal vehicles combined.
Trains are 185km/L per ton, and ships get about double that. The only more efficient method is bicycling.
Electrification won’t do much to help because batteries are so big and heavy you’re basically shipping batteries instead of cargo back and forth. There’s been recent advancement in adding sails though, that actually make non-trivial differences. [1]
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/08/31/maersk-tankers-installs-...
Re: China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
#33"Forget Tesla" is the wrong attitude. We should applaud every win we can get, big or small.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-autos-electric/chin...
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#34"Forget Tesla" is the wrong attitude. We should applaud every win we can get, big or small.
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#35Excuse me for this tangent, but when it comes to environmental concerns, why do we still skirt around the largest elephant in the room? Curbing population growth. We have laws against almost every "natural human instinct/desire": X Murder X Rape X Theft, even if you're stealing food when you're starving X Taking shelter in property that you don't own, even if you were freezing to death X In some countries: Being with…
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#36Excuse me for this tangent, but when it comes to environmental concerns, why do we still skirt around the largest elephant in the room? Curbing population growth. We have laws against almost every "natural human instinct/desire": X Murder X Rape X Theft, even if you're stealing food when you're starving X Taking shelter in property that you don't own, even if you were freezing to death X In some countries: Being with…
Dire predictions of the negative consequences of overpopulation, ever since Malthus, have turned out wrong. The population doomsayers didn't even anticipate the real problem we face today: climate change.
Climate change is not caused by overpopulation, but rather by the industrial output of developed countries. These countries, except for China, are not densely populated and have lower rates of population growth than the rest of the world because obtaining contraception is legal and convenient.
On top of that, regulating reproduction is a violation of the most basic human freedoms.
Re: China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
#37Excuse me for this tangent, but when it comes to environmental concerns, why do we still skirt around the largest elephant in the room? Curbing population growth. We have laws against almost every "natural human instinct/desire": X Murder X Rape X Theft, even if you're stealing food when you're starving X Taking shelter in property that you don't own, even if you were freezing to death X In some countries: Being with…
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#38Now they need to get off coal as the source of much of that electricity. I’m not saying they won’t though... I’m pretty sure they are onboard with both cleaning up their environment, and limiting their CO2 emissions.
Re: China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
#39Excuse me for this tangent, but when it comes to environmental concerns, why do we still skirt around the largest elephant in the room? Curbing population growth. We have laws against almost every "natural human instinct/desire": X Murder X Rape X Theft, even if you're stealing food when you're starving X Taking shelter in property that you don't own, even if you were freezing to death X In some countries: Being with…
Re: China's e-buses dent oil demand more than electric cars do
#40Excuse me for this tangent, but when it comes to environmental concerns, why do we still skirt around the largest elephant in the room? Curbing population growth. We have laws against almost every "natural human instinct/desire": X Murder X Rape X Theft, even if you're stealing food when you're starving X Taking shelter in property that you don't own, even if you were freezing to death X In some countries: Being with…